Author Topic: Snow Geese (Read 7234 times)

whitey · « **on:** January 18, 2010, 07:47:22 AM »

Got a few on Thursday and Friday.

Harley did great and the Birds were Yummy.Bacon wrapped and smoked.Outstanding.

Thanks for looking.
Whitey.

turkey slayer · « **Reply #1 on:** January 18, 2010, 08:16:04 AM »

looks like a great hunt

h2ofowlr · « **Reply #2 on:** January 18, 2010, 08:21:25 AM »

Not to bad.

whitey · « **Reply #3 on:** January 18, 2010, 01:05:31 PM »

Thanks Guys.It was Our first time hunting these birds.1 had a band on it.
The next day Harley and I ran up there and the Jack offs were shooting these birds with No Dogs So there cripples were getting away.So Harley was getting them For Me.It was great training for Him and I think He was having a blast.
A Bunch of questionable hunters at Best..

The Game Wardens,The 2 old Guys are a punch of Punk A$$ worthless F$@k's..(For the record There Dave Not You and the Young Guy That was with You)(I Know You read this

)
These Guys should Be helpful when a question is ask instead of giving some smart A$$ answer.
We left the Blind up north and Headed to This spot.They were sitting there.I figured I would Go and ask a few quick questions..
The first words out of the One SmartA$$es mouth is "I would get Me another truck"..I said its a great truck.He said He had several reports about a truck that matches My trucks description..A Bunch of Young guys tresspassing and ground sluicing..
I told Him He should find another source of info Cuz His is all F$#ked up..My Partner is 68 years old and I'm 45 hardly Young Guys..
We just said Thanks for nothing and went about seeking permission.
Got it and bagged out and gone in less than 2 hours
What a bunch of A-Holes..Fat Bast@#S anyways..I bet the seat of His truck stinks Like His A$$ cause He spends all day sitting in it with His stupid Blankie..
Other than that had fun.
Will be back Up there this week.For more.

carpsniperg2 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 18, 2010, 01:09:29 PM »

good looking birds

ratherhunt · « **Reply #5 on:** January 18, 2010, 01:40:47 PM »

Nice birds and a good looking dog.

GEARHEAD · « **Reply #6 on:** January 18, 2010, 06:48:56 PM »

I AGREE WITH YOU REGARDING THAT GUY, CAN'T GET HIM OFF HIS ARRS, JUST SITS THERE, WON'T ANSWER A QUESTION WITHOUT BEING A WISE ASS AND LEAVING YOU CONFUSED. the others i have spoke with are great people, lots of info from them always friendly, its to bad that this guy makes the others look bad, sure hope he retires soon, so we can add to this newer better generation of Gamies. seems like this guy even makes things up, to add to the confusion, i have had to talk to the wildlife guys to get straight answers.

singleshot12 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 18, 2010, 08:17:09 PM »

I'm sure the good olboy was just funnin ya,probably didn't mean no harm. He's tired of watching the ground pounding combat hunters and would rather be watching the outlaw fishermen,lol

jordano · « **Reply #8 on:** January 18, 2010, 10:53:24 PM »

awesome!!!!

jordano · « **Reply #9 on:** January 18, 2010, 10:53:50 PM »

awesome!

whitey · « **Reply #10 on:** January 19, 2010, 05:44:40 AM »

singleshot12
Funnin is one thing But accusing is another.
There isn't a whole lot funny about being accused of being an Unethical hunter.
I can take a ribbing with the best of them.But this Guy was just being a D!ck.
These Guys/Gals should be mentors not A$$holes.They should have the answers and be happy to give good helpfull info.
If they don't like people they should find another job.

Thanks Guys for your comments.
Whitey

Skyvalhunter · « **Reply #11 on:** January 19, 2010, 05:54:37 AM »

Nice looking birds there Derek!! Sorry to hear the bad experience. Some guys just need a lil poke in the nose to bring them back to reality. Just shake it off and keep doing what you do.

whitey · « **Reply #12 on:** January 19, 2010, 06:52:53 AM »

Thanks Skyvalhunter
He looked at Me and said "Whats on Your mind" I felt like telling the fat tub of crap exactly what was on My mind.But elected not to.

I will be back up there blasting those geese again this week.
How did the grouse hunting go for You this Year?Did You get that hunting dog of Your out after them?How is that lil dude doing?
Did You move?

Skyvalhunter · « **Reply #13 on:** January 19, 2010, 08:34:57 AM »

Well sometimes its tough to bite ones lip but that might have been the best thing to do. But if you run into him again a few choice words might be needed. Some guys seem to think a $50k truck makes them more of a man.

on them!!
Buster(he's definately a high excercise dog) and I got our limits but had to work at it. Had snow and rain a few days over there. Shawn and the gang didn't get a bird but they seemed to be stoking the fire a fair amount of the time. Still living in the same place.
Be safe out there with those clowns around.

Skyhigh · « **Reply #14 on:** January 19, 2010, 10:05:55 AM »

Quote from: whitey on January 19, 2010, 05:44:40 AM

singleshot12
Funnin is one thing But accusing is another.
.They should have the answers and be happy to give good helpfull info.

From your account it sounded like he gave you solid "helpfull" info about your truck and also from your account it didnt sound like you got accused.

Just curious why you think they should have all the answers?

Just my opinion here, but to me, it sounds as if you got a pretty big chip on your shoulder and it was read by those (in your words) fat arse worthless f$@k's punks...

whitey · « **Reply #15 on:** January 20, 2010, 05:58:52 AM »

Skyhigh
No chip on My shoulder.
Just dont like jack offs.With or without a badge
Thanks for the input.

Dustin07 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 21, 2010, 09:00:21 AM »

skagit gamies have taken their fair share of heat lately so quite possibly there are tensions... I've met some that were pretty cool guys, and some that were d-bags. but you never know, maybe they just hadn't had their coffee yet.

nice work on the snows- what kind of decoy spread did you have?

Its too bad that you have to count other people's cripples as your harvest. I wouldn't mind seeing us have to mark cripples towards our harvest card. would cut down the sky blasters I think. (if they could inforce it).

h2ofowlr · « **Reply #17 on:** January 21, 2010, 04:05:21 PM »

Marking cripples on your card would only effect the honest ones. The ones causing the problems, would still be at it until they had 4 in possession.

Dustin07 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 21, 2010, 04:32:10 PM »

yeah maybe. comes down to enforcement regardless I think. I know when I lost one I still marked it on my card. And that one wasn't even a sky bust, but a wing set decoyer.

kbyers · « **Reply #19 on:** January 21, 2010, 04:40:12 PM »

Quote from: h2ofowlr on January 21, 2010, 04:05:21 PM

Marking cripples on your card would only effect the honest ones. The ones causing the problems, would still be at it until they had 4 in possession.

Just like any other regulation, honest people will continue to do the right thing as regulations tighten and the ones that cause the problem will continue along as well. It really does only take a few to ruin it for many

GEARHEAD · « **Reply #20 on:** January 21, 2010, 10:03:52 PM »

the eagles sure appreciate the cripples, man there are alot down there, even though we don't like to see things go to waste, that is just not the case down there, by sea or land, those eagles are on 'em fast. i figure we are just doing are part to reduce global warming. and feed an eagle, i feel bad about loosing ducks, not so much with snows. beat me up but i, call it a green hunt.

Dustin07 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 22, 2010, 08:15:55 AM »

Quote from: GEARHEAD on January 21, 2010, 10:03:52 PM

the eagles sure appreciate the cripples, man there are alot down there, even though we don't like to see things go to waste, that is just not the case down there, by sea or land, those eagles are on 'em fast. i figure we are just doing are part to reduce global warming. and feed an eagle, i feel bad about loosing ducks, not so much with snows. beat me up but i, call it a green hunt.

LOL my feelings are the opposite, I'd rather lose a duck than a snow. not that i'd like to lose either, but...

upwind · « **Reply #22 on:** January 22, 2010, 11:39:38 AM »

singleshot12 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 22, 2010, 01:54:47 PM »

The snow geese here are in poor shape,they are way out of control and over populated and need to be thinned way down for their own good. Eagles,hawks and coyotes slick up dead and wounded birds pretty fast,nothing goes to waste.
Some of the other States that have an overpopulation of snows allow a 20+ daily bird limit and the hunters can leave them lay to be plowed under. They don't have all the bird watcher groups behind their shoulders controlling how they hunt.

Dustin07 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 22, 2010, 02:00:18 PM »

Quote from: singleshot12 on January 22, 2010, 01:54:47 PM

The snow geese here are in poor shape,they are way out of control and over populated and need to be thinned way down for their own good. Eagles,hawks and coyotes slick up dead and wounded birds pretty fast,nothing goes to waste.
Some of the other States that have an overpopulation of snows allow a 20+ daily bird limit and the hunters can leave them lay to be plowed under. They don't have all the bird watcher groups behind their shoulders controlling how they hunt.

that's quite true. I hunted Missouri last year ( might try to go back this year) during the 'conservation' season. There is NO LIMIT on snows. but my understanding is that last year the snow population was at about 6,000,000, and the goal was to cut that in half. Not sure how true that is, but I know when I was there (near Squaw Creek Wildlife Refuge, look it up) there were 1.8million counted on the refuge. so possibly. they are hurting the Tundra.

Skyhigh · « **Reply #25 on:** January 22, 2010, 05:12:42 PM »

Quote from: singleshot12 on January 22, 2010, 01:54:47 PM

The snow geese here are in poor shape,they are way out of control and over populated and need to be thinned way down for their own good. Eagles,hawks and coyotes slick up dead and wounded birds pretty fast,nothing goes to waste.
Some of the other States that have an overpopulation of snows allow a 20+ daily bird limit and the hunters can leave them lay to be plowed under. They don't have all the bird watcher groups behind their shoulders controlling how they hunt.

I suggest you should do some research on our snowgeese compared to other flyway snowgeese...Key word in your google search should "wrangle island" snoogeese.. and maybe after your little self education you will want to edit your blurbur from above.

h2ofowlr · « **Reply #26 on:** January 22, 2010, 05:20:50 PM »

The numbers are very different between the two fly ways. They also nest in two different areas. Snohomish, Skagit and Frasier Delta split the 130k-150k snows that winter in this area. Not quite the same number as 6 million. All the snows I have been shooting look very healthy with a hell of an appetite.

singleshot12 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 22, 2010, 05:39:05 PM »

I've been hunting them for 35 years and I have seen a good majority this year with sunkin breasts and no fat layer, fields are ate up and brown. It will be interesting to know how many actually make it back to Wrangle in the spring.
Snows depend on farmers grass and there is only so many acres of it here.

h2ofowlr · « **Reply #28 on:** January 22, 2010, 06:25:33 PM »

Quote from: singleshot12 on January 22, 2010, 05:39:05 PM

I've been hunting them for 35 years and I have seen a good majority this year with sunkin breasts and no fat layer, fields are ate up and brown. It will be interesting to know how many actually make it back to Wrangle in the spring.
Snows depend on farmers grass and there is only so many acres of it here.

They should be good now. They loose a lot of musle mass on the long journey over here. Then they put it back on quickly. As I was cutting them open, you can see where the new musle is over laping the old. They have another week of being chased around down here, then they will work over some fields before the journey back, minus the late season hunt across the boarder.

singleshot12 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 22, 2010, 07:23:24 PM »

Let's hope so h2o,,as long as farmers keep planting grass crops there will always be a few geese around.
Alot of changes in the works for next season,it will be very interesting.

upwind · « **Reply #30 on:** January 22, 2010, 11:13:52 PM »

It seems to me some of you are trying to make excuses for shooting to high which causes allot of cripples I'm sick of seen sky busters shoot at geese way to high.I was hunting a field in front of the dike when a flock of geese came over a little lower than the other flocks probably about 60 yards high and i heard theme open up and they sailed one in to the fields and i could here them cheer and thought that it was funny they did not Even look for the goose.What happen to respect of what you hunt you don't kill things you wont eat and you do you re best to recover what you shoot.No wonder bird watchers are mad i would be to and as a hunter I'm furious and I'm going let theme {sky busters}know it im not going to let slob hunters ruin it for me its time to start taken care of are sport and show a little respect for the animals we hunt.

ck · « **Reply #31 on:** January 23, 2010, 08:31:23 PM »

Quote from: singleshot12 on January 22, 2010, 07:23:24 PM

Let's hope so h2o,,as long as farmers keep planting grass crops there will always be a few geese around.
Alot of changes in the works for next season,it will be very interesting.

Any definite changes you know of? Will there still be some sort of quality hunt areas? Any further closed areas around the dikes/bayfront access areas?(I'd hate to see that) Any idea where to find out about proposed changes- I hear lots of rumors, but never really see anything official.
It seems like WDFW needs to come up with a new way to present snow goose hunting to a lot of hunters. A lot of people seem to buy into the whole "flying maggot, pest, good for nothing, overpopulated, crop ruining, etc" idea and use that as an excuse to come on up to Fir Island and blast away, rather than learn how to hunt. I guess I don't get understand why people think it's ok to shoot 20+ rounds for each bird they knock down and actually recover while sending 4 or 5 more sailing back to the bay. I guess since they just a "problem" bird they don't have to feel bad about piles of cripples and the way your shooting effects other hunters, and if they close off access and make it harder for the general public to get out there they'll just find somewhere and something else to shoot. Sorry for the rambling post but I'm kind of frustrated with all this stuff.

singleshot12 · « **Reply #32 on:** January 23, 2010, 08:40:26 PM »

Feel free to ramble, I could go on for days and it is very frustrating.
WDFW is under fire after that elk fiasco last month. Word is Fir Island will be closed to hunting until something can be resolved.

ck · « **Reply #33 on:** January 23, 2010, 09:15:58 PM »

Thanks single, I love hunting there- I live about 15-20 minutes away but it seems like every time I go out there I and up frustrated and sometimes embarrassed by the other hunters that are out there. If nothing else my son has seen lots of examples of how NOT to hunt this year.

ctwiggs1 · « **Reply #34 on:** January 24, 2010, 08:16:59 AM »

The game wardens had a full day yesterday, that's for sure. Folks were pass shooting in the refuge and shooting over roads.... It was nuts.

Not to fuel the fire or anything, but it is sad because its not like they can stop the snow goose season; it would destroy the farmers. However, the rich greenies with their expensive high power cameras are going to probably be just as powerful of a political force as the farmers. Now you throw in the hunters. As long as they keep making themselves part of the problem on the news, and not a solution on the news, the rulings will not be in favor of them.

Maybe the hunters should start a "neighboorhood watch" on fir island in conjunction with the WDFW to patrol, observe, and report? Putting that on the news could perhaps slant the public opinion in our favor.

BTW, as we've seen... It's not always "illegal" activity that will destroy our priviledge to hunt. We need to get realistic here.

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