it is true that people over judge bears. I have killed several bears that break the six foot mark and none of them came close to touching the 400 lb mark. This last year I got one that was 6'5 1/2" It only weighed 225 lbs (without guts). Guts don't weigh 100lbs. It wasn't a skinny bear either. Everybody I have had guess by the pictures says 400. NOT EVEN CLOSE. I wanna see scale pics of these 400 pounders. They do exist, but not like people think.