Boyd Shelby, blacktail guide

[Dipsnort]

After having sat through the blacktail hunting seminar put on by Boyd (Ed) Shelby at the Puyallup sportsman's show over the weekend I'm generally suspicious and curious as to any experiences folks have hunting with him.  What say you?

[bucklucky]

 

Ive only heard rumors, so I cant help ya on that one.

[bow4elk]

no clue...

[Houndhunter]

thatd be really hard unless you have alota private land access id think. ive thought bout trying to guide blacktails but i have a hard enough time trying to get people that generally know how to hunt on one, plus id have to take everyone to my honey holes

[wildmanoutdoors]

I live in Port Orchard and have known him since Jr. High. He definately gets it done. His success is astonishing. His biggest bucks are usaually semi neighborhood bucks which have grown up semi urban. Its not uncommen to see a house near were your hunting. Lots of areas other hunters dont think of. He capitolises on them and is very good at what he does.

Might not be your style, but the man knows how to find BIG Blackies. Legally. Usaually the areas he hunts for monsters are bow only because of proximity.

[Dipsnort]

Yeah, it looked to me as though he essentially relies on access to private property and often harvests deer in people's back yards.  It sounds like his guide service would be good for someone who is after a buck and not necessarily a "traditional" hunting experience.

He also made a very interesting comment--that he has been accused of poaching, hunting at night and hunting without permission.  I'm trying to reconcile why a person would make such a comment and why he (apparently) has been accused in what sounded to me like several instances.  Like I said, I'm generally suspicious.

[wildmanoutdoors]

Most homeowners who have no knowledge of hunting laws and such and maybe have seen frequently or even have everyday BIG bucks coming into there yards feel violated when along comes a guy in the know and whacks one with the kids swing set in the background. He will generally take em on a greenbelt or easement during there travels. He may even offer a gratituity to hunt your private lot.

There are allot of very populated places in Kitsap that are open to harvest with a bow. And many have no idea how to go about finding those places.

[Dipsnort]

I guess there were a few things that gnawed on my while I sat back and listened to the seminar.  First of all, it was basically an overt sales pitch to hire his services.  And there were several comments that had me thinking he was just off base in a social aspect.  Among other things, he mentioned that there have been times when a buck was on a neighboring property that he didn't have permission to hunt so he has thrown rocks on that property to try to scare the buck to the property he was standing on (where he apparently did have permission to hunt).  Maybe it's just me but if I don't want some guy killing animals on my property I sure as hell don't want him throwing rocks on my property to scare a deer to him.

[Dmanmastertracker]

Most homeowners who have no knowledge of hunting laws and such and maybe have seen frequently or even have everyday BIG bucks coming into there yards feel violated when along comes a guy in the know and whacks one with the kids swing set in the background. He will generally take em on a greenbelt or easement during there travels. He may even offer a gratituity to hunt your private lot.

There are allot of very populated places in Kitsap that are open to harvest with a bow. And many have no idea how to go about finding those places.

I don't know the guy, but I do know most easement's and greenbelt's are closed to hunting. In very, very rare situations, a private Company may own an easement such as Bonneville, but the majority of easement's, ROW's and greenbelt's are owned by the County, or City of jurisdiction and are closed to hunting .

[wildmanoutdoors]

I hear ya there. If your throwing rocks on a maintained piece of property like a lawn or garden or such Id be pissed too. But if you have 20 acreas of dense forest and couldent notice a rock out of place no matter, then I guess its fair game. All a homeowner could do is ask him to stop throwing them. If it was in your yard you could ask he comes pick it all up. Most wouldent even know he is there....

He definately isnt for everyone, but I dont believe he is a poacher as the definition decribes. He's kind of like the Jim Teeney of hunting...Jim would throw rocks to get Steelies to change there lye.
 

[wildmanoutdoors]

I don't know the guy, but I do know most easement's and greenbelt's are closed to hunting. In very, very rare situations, a private Company may own an easement such as Bonneville, but the majority of easement's, ROW's and greenbelt's are owned by the County, or City of jurisdiction and are closed to hunting .

Your probably right, and I used the terms way too loosely and shouldent speak for him, I cant say the he actually uses greenbelts and easements, because I dont know, just that he dosent have any issues with our 2 local area wardens...and he dosent have a bad rep with the community.

[bobcat]

Hey, somebody's gotta keep those rose-bush-eating deer numbers in check around those subdivisions. I don't blame the guy at all for taking advantage of the big bucks available that many won't hunt because of the proximity to houses and such.

[Dipsnort]

I hear ya there. If your throwing rocks on a maintained piece of property like a lawn or garden or such Id be pissed too. But if you have 20 acreas of dense forest and couldent notice a rock out of place no matter, then I guess its fair game. All a homeowner could do is ask him to stop throwing them. If it was in your yard you could ask he comes pick it all up. Most wouldent even know he is there....

He definately isnt for everyone, but I dont believe he is a poacher as the definition decribes. He's kind of like the Jim Teeney of hunting...Jim would throw rocks to get Steelies to change there lye.
 

It it were my piece of land it wouldn't matter whether the rocks land on my manicured lawn or in the "back 40".  I would still be PO'ed.  As an outside observer to this particular story he told I think it's beyond obtrusive.  The Jim Teeney story is not the same because the streams are public property.  If Boyd wants to throw rocks on public property to scare a deer his way I don't see a problem with it.

[wildmanoutdoors]

"The Jim Teeney story is not the same because the streams are public property.  If Boyd wants to throw rocks on public property to scare a deer his way I don't see a problem with it."

Exactly why I said "KIND OF" like the Jim Teeny.

Id just ask him for a steak. Lol PO' d or not, what are ya gonna do about it? Yell and scream? Big deal...break the law and you'll be sitting in jail and he will still have his Deer. Sure he could run into a whacko someday and get shot. But unless your that whacko, what exactly would you do Dipnort?

I wouldent like it any more than you. But you wouldent even know he was there chances are. And your right, He probably shouldent talk about that in a place were so many have different ideas and or concerns over these ways of getting deer. I wouldent be telling audiences that.

[Kowsrule30]

I've never heard anything too bad about this guy... A little off but who isn't.. But this is my exsperience with little honey hole's around suburbs in the County...


I live in Kitsap County... There are a lot of areas most hunters would never even think of hunting.... I found a nice little honey hole when I was 16.... I used my shot gun even though it wasn't a firearm restriction area.... Houses were not very close by... I nailed a nice 3 point one morning and it ran on private/posted land... (actually ran over 400 yds) After knocking on the door explaining myself and dragging a deer across their yard in front of their children.... (back to the woods, he wouldn't let me drive around and load it up) Hell, I even offered to hose down all the blood...   There was no hunting signs all over the next season...  A least I got one before the inevitable happened....