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Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« on: February 12, 2010, 09:49:54 AM »
Regarding the Bill to elimate the current WDFW:

SB 6813 Transferring various natural resources management duties to the department of natural resources is scheduled for public hearing in the Senate Natural Resources committee next Wednesday morning (Feb 17) at 8 AM. 
 
The general reaction to this measure from among the regulated communities when it was first introduced was universally negative.  The fiscal note for the bill shows that there are no immediate financial benefits to the bill and only marginal (maybe) benefits in future years.  The bill does not deal with the types of problems created by the merger years ago of the department of fish and department of game - with some unresolved problems today even after more then 10 years since the merger. 
 
DNR is not a general authorities agency (an enforcement issue) hence the bill would create numerous wildlife enforcement issues across all elements of the regulated communities.  Many of the comments forwarded when the bill focused on the measure being nothing but political "reform smoke and mirrors;" a bill "designed to eliminate citizen participation in wildlife management" and numerous, similar examples. 
 
Members of the Senate Natural Resources Committee need to hear from groups and individuals ASAP with their opposition to the bill.  The members of the Senate Natural Resources Committee are:
 
Senator Ken Jacobsen
237 John A. Cherberg Building
PO Box 40446
Olympia, WA 98504-0446
(360) 786-7690
Fax: (360) 786-1999
Web Email link at http://www.leg.wa.gov/senate/senators/pages/jacobsen.aspx
 
Senator Kevin Ranker
402 Legislative Building
PO Box 40440
Olympia, WA 98504-0440
(360) 786-7678
Web Email link at http://www.leg.wa.gov/senate/senators/pages/ranker.aspx
 
Senator Bob Morton
115D Irv Newhouse Building
PO Box 40407
Olympia, WA 98504-0407
(360) 786-7612
Fax: (360) 786-1999
Web Email link at http://www.leg.wa.gov/senate/senators/pages/morton.aspx
 
Senator Karen Fraser
404 Legislative Building
PO Box 40422
Olympia, WA 98504-0422
(360) 786-7642
Fax: (360) 786-1999
Web Email link at http://www.leg.wa.gov/senate/senators/pages/fraser.aspx
 
Senator Jim Hargrove
411 Legislative Building
PO Box 40424
Olympia, WA 98504-0424
(360) 786-7646
Fax: (360) 786-1323
Web Email link at http://www.leg.wa.gov/senate/senators/pages/hargrove.aspx
 
Senator Brian Hatfield
239 John A. Cherberg Building
PO Box 40419
Olympia, WA 98504-0419
(360) 786-7636
Web Email link at http://www.leg.wa.gov/senate/senators/pages/hatfield.aspx
 
Senator Val Stevens
105 Irv Newhouse Building
PO Box 40439
Olympia, WA 98504-0439
(360) 786-7676
Fax: (360) 786-7819
Web Email link at http://www.leg.wa.gov/senate/senators/pages/stevens.aspx
 
Senator Dan Swecker
103 Irv Newhouse Building
PO Box 40420
Olympia, WA 98504-0420
(360) 786-7638
Fax: (360) 786-1999
Web Email link at http://www.leg.wa.gov/senate/senators/pages/swecker.aspx
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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2010, 02:51:27 PM »
Just got an email from them.  They are asking me to help stop this bill.  I think I will write back and remind them of how many times they were "neutral" when my hunting rights were on the line.
 
Hound hunting cats and bears
Baiting bears
eliminating dogs for coyotes
Trapping
Choosing predators over hunters for management
And of course the whole wolf plan

I dont think I support this bill but I am gonna make them sweat a bit with the letter Im going to write.  

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WASHINGTON FISH AND WILDLIFE COMMISSION
600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, WA 98501-1091
http://wdfw.wa.gov

Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission Statement on Senate Bill 6813
(A bill transferring various natural resources management duties to the Department of Natural Resources.)

February 12, 2010

The Fish and Wildlife Commission hereby expresses its strong opposition to Senate Bill 6813 .  This proposed legislation would abolish the Department of Fish and Wildlife and the State Parks and Recreation Commission and transfer their powers, duties, and functions to the Department of Natural Resources. While the Legislature states that it intends no transfer of powers and duties away from the Fish and Wildlife Commission, it in fact would eliminate the central authority of the Fish and Wildlife Commission — the power to hire and fire the Director. It would also remove the Commission’s authority over the Department budget.

The three agencies that are affected by this bill have very different mandates and missions — each important to the quality of life of our citizenry. It would be improper to intentionally or unintentionally make the vital resource conservation mission of the Department of Fish and Wildlife subordinate to the resource extraction mission of the Department of Natural Resources.

After a thoughtful and deliberative process considering the costs and benefits of various natural resource agencies re-organization options, the Governor proposed ways to enhance efficiency and reduce redundancy. The Governor’s government reform process involved resource professionals, the affected stakeholders, and the public.  SB 6813 proposes to enact a merger option that was thoroughly reviewed but ultimately eliminated because it lacked benefits sufficient to justify the costs and risks to the state’s natural resources.

The merger proposed in this bill will diminish the ability of each component agency to successfully focus and consolidate the needed resources on the core elements of its own unique mission. Because of the important differences in their purposes, the component parts of the agencies would not be integrated, but would remain distinct parts of the resulting combined agency. The transition is likely to give rise to a host of procedural issues which will distract staff from strategic priorities.

The impact on the governance of WDFW is our preeminent concern. In passing Referendum 45 in 1995, the voters of Washington empowered the Fish and Wildlife Commission with supervisory authority over the Department director for a purpose: to guarantee that fish and wildlife management would be both directly responsive to the public and insulated from political pressures.  As is the case in states around the country, the Commission process was designed to assure that the interests of long-term conservation would not be compromised for short-term political ends.

By eliminating the Commission’s source of authority — the authority to hire and fire the director — this bill will reverse Referendum 45. If enacted, this bill will remove the power of the Commission. It will remove the Commission’s ability to demand conservation of fish and wildlife. The Commission will no longer be able to provide the public a direct avenue to exert control over the agency that sets important hunting and fishing rules.  The Commission will no longer have the clout to insulate uniquely important conservation decisions from the politics of the day.

The people made their intent absolutely clear. The people voted to provide a citizen commission with the authority to govern the agency that makes decisions on the fish and wildlife resources of this state. 

Susan Yeager, Executive Assistant
Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission
Phone: (360) 902-2267
Email:  Susan.Yeager@dfw.wa.gov     
Mail:   600 Capitol Way North
Olympia, Washington 98501-1091
Web:  http://wdfw.wa.gov/commission
 
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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2010, 02:54:23 PM »
Kain, I like the way you are thinking.... :tup:

I definitely am opposed to the bill, however, as I am sure most of you know, the WDFW upsets me considerably on several issues too.... :twocents:
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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2010, 03:02:14 PM »
No where in the letter does it say anything about supporting hunters and fishers.  They repeat how they will loose their power and control over the commission and important conservation issues.  

Continually raise the cost of fishing and hunting and provide less and less opportunity an now they want our help.   >:( >:(

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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2010, 03:09:28 PM »
I know what you are saying kain, but the big kicker is that you will not have a citizen commission making the big decisions at the DNR. Direction will come from the management and governor only, that's the big difference, and that is why I think the bunny hugging antis are trying to get the commission moved there. :twocents:
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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2010, 03:15:13 PM »
Im with ya.  Just burns me up they want my help after crapping on us for so long.

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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2010, 03:17:27 PM »
I am with you too, good time to give them hell and make them sweat.... :chuckle:
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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2010, 03:21:48 PM »
I agree guys.. It could be worse but really how much worse could it really be?
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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2010, 03:23:05 PM »
WDFW  :pee:   Thanks Bearpaw and Kain for helping.

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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2010, 03:25:18 PM »
Im not opposed to this bill.  It can't be worse than it currently is now.
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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2010, 03:32:52 PM »
Im not opposed to this bill.  It can't be worse than it currently is now.

 wanna bet...? :chuckle: :chuckle:

Actually, I like the way Kain thinks too...
Probably won't support the bill either, but I'm not going out of my way to save an agency that does what these clowns have been doing...
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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2010, 03:39:36 PM »
They have *censored*ed us every chance they have gotten why save them now?
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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2010, 03:48:42 PM »
My email.

Dear WDFW and the Commission,

I think it is a bit ironic that that you are now asking for help from the fishing and hunting community to help defeat this bill.  I guess I just need to remind you of all of the times the WDFW was either neutral or proactive in eliminating hunters rights.  Continually raising the cost while providing less and less opportunity to us hunters and fishers.  Where were you when they wanted to eliminate hound hunting for cats and bears?  Where were you when they eliminated bear baiting?  The commission eliminated dogs for coyote hunting all on its own because it had become "socially unacceptable".  Where was the WDFW when our most effective tools were eliminated for trapping.  You continually choose predators over hunters for wildlife management.  The wolf plan is prime example of this.  Creating a lop sided wolf commission to choose wolves over hunters not considering hunting as way of wolf management.  And it is only thanks to State law and the U.S. Constitution  that you allow us to carry weapon for protection while archery hunting.  Not making enforcement officers the number one priority has led to rampant poaching, trespassing, and other outdoors abuses.  Which has closed most of the roads and timber lands to driving.  I cant take my young daughter and my dad hunting anymore because they cant walk miles into gated areas.  And you ask us to help with this as well.  Now that your jobs and control are on the line you have the nerve to ask for our help....unbelievable.  I just read your email and no where in it did it even mention hunters and fishers as any kind of concern to you.  Maybe its time you experience how it feels to be hung out to dry.

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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2010, 03:51:48 PM »
They have *censored*ed us every chance they have gotten why save them now?

I said that in 2003 when we were getting rid of our old commander.  Then we got a new one, and he was worse.  3 years later, we thought we were so glad to get rid of him... and guess what...?

I cringe now when we get a new commander... :chuckle:
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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2010, 03:55:03 PM »
Good job Kain.
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