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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #45 on: February 15, 2010, 03:53:25 PM »
Well out of morbid curiosity I looked up who Peter Goldmark (commissioner of public lands) political contributions are from and as expected its the Indian tribes, sierra club, and the rest of the neerdowell anti hunting groups....

http://www.pdc.wa.gov/QuerySystem/candidates/candidatedata.aspx

Were screwed either way.
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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #46 on: February 15, 2010, 03:54:01 PM »
The public voting on anything hunting related in this state is a total disaster...Im not sure how much worse it is having Gregoire appointing commissioners and the director though.  The bottom line with all of this is the WDFW has become a bloated political pig and will do anything it can to continue its lame existence.

They are so desperate for an atta boy from the Governor they have alloud them selves to become the bitch of the Defenders of Wildlife crowd and thats terrible for anyone who hunts or fishes.

Honestly its a coin flip and Im ready for something different.
:yeah: And if this hunt permit proposal gets pushed through im really going to support anything to *censored*can wdfw.
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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #47 on: February 15, 2010, 04:10:57 PM »
You want a public vote on the director??? King county and the rest of I-5 corridor controlls the vote in this state.  Why do you think the No bear baiting, No hound hunting, No trapping bill passed, and you want these people to determine the director.

I agree Fish and Wildlife can be better, but it also can be a lot worse.

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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #48 on: February 15, 2010, 09:42:31 PM »
The commission is appointed by the Governor.  All the above things have come into play with democratic governors.  Look at the flower power people Hogwire has appointed.
At the time she stole the governor seat from Rossi, a good guy named Bob Tuck from Selah was on the commission.  He was on our side.  He and another commissioner had not been confirmed by the state senate, so she let them go.  did not even contact them to let them know.  Tuck had to call Olympia to find out why he was no longer receiving anything from the department.  The poor desk clerk had to tell him he was no longer part of the program.  She appointed two of her people, who have served her well.
I don't buy the so called hands off by the gov, senators and Representatives.  When they operated on the money generated by the sales of licenses, permits and so on, they were untouchable.  As soon as they accepted money from the general fund, it was all over.  The commission then became obligated.

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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #49 on: February 16, 2010, 06:03:14 AM »
Great points Jerbear, Wacenturian, and shootmore.  :bash:

I wish we could go back to the agency being called Fish & Game, and take away the general fund funding. Since those things happened the agency has definitely gone down hill.

Even though I am sure we do not want them to merge with DNR, I still agree with Kain, it is a good time to let them know what we are all unhappy about, and make them sweat.

I just found out Saturday at the Spokane Banquet, that SCI is meeting with WDFW and they intend to discuss this wolf issue. If anyone has the power to influence, it is SCI. They are to hunting, what NRA is to the 2nd Amendment.

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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #50 on: February 16, 2010, 06:41:27 AM »
Well out of morbid curiosity I looked up who Peter Goldmark (commissioner of public lands) political contributions are from and as expected its the Indian tribes, sierra club, and the rest of the neerdowell anti hunting groups....

http://www.pdc.wa.gov/QuerySystem/candidates/candidatedata.aspx

Were screwed either way.
You guys remember him... he ran for Congress a few years ago as a Democrat (against Cathy McMorris, I think it was 2004(?). 
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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #51 on: February 16, 2010, 08:45:02 AM »
pathfinder is correct about Peter Goldmark running against Cathy McMorris.  He is a liberal higher education professor by training, and not good for DNR.

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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #52 on: February 16, 2010, 08:47:25 AM »
This bill is scheduled for a hearing tomorrow, feb 17th at 8:00 a.m. if anyone would like to go and testify against the bill.   I will  not be making it from Spokane, but wanted to let others know that the opportunity to testify is still available.

Feb 17  Scheduled for public hearing in the Senate Committee on Natural Resources and Ocean & Recreation at 8:00 AM. (Subject to change) (Committee Materials)
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=6813&year=2009



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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #53 on: February 16, 2010, 10:18:18 AM »
pathfinder is correct about Peter Goldmark running against Cathy McMorris.  He is a liberal higher education professor by training, and not good for DNR.

Bills himself as a "rancher" from Okanogan though...
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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #54 on: February 16, 2010, 10:27:37 AM »
pathfinder is correct about Peter Goldmark running against Cathy McMorris.  He is a liberal higher education professor by training, and not good for DNR.

Bills himself as a "rancher" from Okanogan though...

Obama billed himself as a lot of things too. :chuckle:
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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #55 on: February 16, 2010, 10:32:02 AM »
pathfinder is correct about Peter Goldmark running against Cathy McMorris.  He is a liberal higher education professor by training, and not good for DNR.

Bills himself as a "rancher" from Okanogan though...

He does have a 8000 acre ranch up on Timentwa Rd if I remember correctly.  I think he inherited it from his folks who bought it in the 40's.  Its up by Omak lake on the Rez.

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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #56 on: February 16, 2010, 10:53:48 AM »
pathfinder is correct about Peter Goldmark running against Cathy McMorris.  He is a liberal higher education professor by training, and not good for DNR.

Bills himself as a "rancher" from Okanogan though...

He does have a 8000 acre ranch up on Timentwa Rd if I remember correctly.  I think he inherited it from his folks who bought it in the 40's.  Its up by Omak lake on the Rez.

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Well, I guess that make him a rancher then... he has a cowboy hat and everything... :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #57 on: February 18, 2010, 09:28:06 AM »
pathfinder is correct about Peter Goldmark running against Cathy McMorris.  He is a liberal higher education professor by training, and not good for DNR.

Bills himself as a "rancher" from Okanogan though...

He does have a 8000 acre ranch up on Timentwa Rd if I remember correctly.  I think he inherited it from his folks who bought it in the 40's.  Its up by Omak lake on the Rez.

Shootmoore

Well, I guess that make him a rancher then... he has a cowboy hat and everything... :chuckle: :chuckle:


 :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #58 on: February 18, 2010, 11:46:10 AM »
Did anyone go to the hearing yesterday? Or have any idea how i went?

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Re: Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
« Reply #59 on: February 18, 2010, 11:57:06 AM »
no, but I have been watching the wa.gov web-site and they haven't put any updated information on it.  It was weird, because the hearing was actually scheduled for 2/17, which was one day after the cut-off deadline.  This is the only bill that I know of that was this way, so I am hoping the bill is dead, but we won't know for sure until we see what came out of yesterday's meeting.

 


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