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gas...you just now replied to this and i talked to you about those guys 2 months ago? LOL...just giving you a hard time.ya i saw Bryant at the sportsmans show. he was really busy with a few guys but i'm taking my dog out there sometime within the next two months just like you suggested. gonna see what he has to say. hope it's not too late to start her. military keeps me pretty busy so i got some dvd's, books, etc....and looking in to e-collars and trying to get with her some each day. i did take a few birds from the last weekend i hunted and put the wings on her bumper, and around the yard to help her with the scent. thanks though for all the advice. better late than never i guess.pete