.223 compared to .22-250

[jackelope]

Whats the advantages and/or downsides to a .223 compared to a .22-250 when it comes to coyotes and other random varmints and critters?
I have a 22-250 but have never even shot the thing. My co-worker wants an AR but he's been convinced that a 22-250 is the caliber he should have...
So we are also trying to figure out if there is such an animal as an AR type black rifle in 22-250. I am not a black gun guy so don't know anything about them, nor am I too familiar with the .22 caliber stuff.
I figure this thread should make for some good ford versus chevy versus dodge type conversation too... 
Thanks in advance.

[WDFW-SUX]

The difference is between the 400-600 yard mark.  the 223 is cheaper so it gets my vote.

.223 Remington Impact Energy
100 yds. = 998
200 yds. = 767
300 yds. = 581
400 yds. = 437

.22-250 Remington Impact Energy
100 yds. = 1302
200 yds. = 1010
300 yds. = 772
400 yds. = 582
500 yds. = 433



.223 Remington Impact Velocity
100 yds. = 2859
200 yds. = 2507
300 yds. = 2181
400 yds. = 1891

.22-250 Remington Impact Velocity
100 yds. = 3265
200 yds. = 2876
300 yds. = 2517
400 yds. = 2183
500 yds. = 1887

[MtnMuley]

Looks like there's a pretty big difference in the 100yd to 400yd mark also compared to that chart?  The 223 and 22-250 are a toss up inside 300 yards.  I prefer to shoot out to 500yds+, so the 22-250 far outweighs the 223 to me.  

[jackelope]

ok so bear with me here, this may be a dumd question but I'm not a reloader and like I said I'm also not familiar with this little stuff...are they the same bullet?

Also is there such a thing as an AR platformed rifle in 22-250?

[WDFW-SUX]

yes

and

yes

[jackelope]

thanks guys...I guess it seems pretty cut and dry that the 22-250 hits harder everywhere.

[MtnMuley]

 
I kinda relate the 223 to the trusty ole 308--- worked for years and gets the job done.  Where as I relate  the 22-250 to the 7mag--- technology has created an upgrade with more energy and velocity, which should lead to better preformance.

[coop2424]

I have never heard of an AR15 in 22-250.  Here are the calibers I have heard of on the AR15 & AR10 Platforms.  Looks like you can get it in AR10 platform from the link below..
223WSSM, 243WSSM, 25WSSM, and I believe a few other bigger bores, like 300 whisper, and a .45 calibre. (To add to Coop2424's list)
AR15
204
223
223 wssm
243 wssm
25 wssm
300 whisper
.45
5.56
6.5 Grendel
6.8 SPC
7.62x39
5.45x39
.22LR
5.7
.50 Beowulf
.410 shotgun
.450 bushmaster

AR10

22-250
.260 Remington
.243 Winchester
.308 Winchester
7.62x51mm
.338 Federal
6.5 Creedmoor

There is also a lot of pistol calibers that can be put in the AR15..

[dontgetcrabs]

I havn't heard of an AR-15 chambered in 22-250? But they are chambered in 223 wssm which would be close maybe even faster than a 250?

[WDFW-SUX]

http://www.ar15barrels.com/ar10.shtml

[sako223]

The .223 & .22-250 use the same diameter bullet.
To get a .22-250 in an AR you have to go with a custom aR10 which is heavier. There have been factory runs of a few AR10 in .22-250 by Armalite but are hard to find. They can have feeding problems is the first reason you don't see that caliber in semi auto.
The .22-250 shoots flatter and generally has a 100 yard advantage over the .223 at all ranges. Practical experience shows the .22-250 to clearly have more authority on coyotes with less runners. The .223 is fine to 300 yds with placement of a good bullet.

[Jamieb]

I shoot both in bolt rifles and like both.
If your going to get a AR then stick with .223, its been perfected.
I hunt yotes more with the 22-250 and just for fun shooting the 22-250 gets more use.
I load 50gr V-max's in both, they get to the target alot faster out of the 22-250 and with less drop/wind drift.

[WDFW-SUX]

Can I change the barrel on my Colt AR15 and shoot somthing other than .223?  Im thinking 308 or 7mm-08?

If no what calibers are available for the 15 platform?

6.5 AR?

[coop2424]

Can I change the barrel on my Colt AR15 and shoot somthing other than .223?  Im thinking 308 or 7mm-08?

If no what calibers are available for the 15 platform?

6.5 AR?

Look at the list above..  Those are most of the calibers you could switch to.  308 and 7mm-08 would have to be AR10 platform..

[jackelope]

I saw an AR in .450 Bushmaster the other week