Hydatid Disease Medical Reports

[wolfbait]

1 Mar 2010, 12:02pm
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Hydatid Disease Medical Reports
Was it a conspiracy, a terrorist act or stupidity that introduced a diseased animal species to the Northwest?

By Harvey Neese,  March 1, 2010

Was it some kind of a conspiracy involving various government agencies/organizations to introduce an animal species with potentially dangerous diseases to the Northwest area? After introduction of Canadian wolves to the Northwest area carrying the Hydatid disease, the government organizations and so-called expert biologists responsible for the introduction have kept very mum on the Hydatid malady introduced by them.

If the biologists in the various agencies responsible for importing this disease to the Northwest had strange sounding foreign names and long beards and taking into account the potential long term financial and health costs to livestock, wildlife and humans in a large sector of the U.S., this might be dubbed a “Terrorist Act” and U.S. security agencies would be actively involved.

It has been reported that a wildlife biologist with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, who was previously employed in Alaska where the Hydatid disease had been known for many years, was transferred to this wolf dumping project in the Northwest. Really now, we are to believe he did not realize the potential undesirable ramifications of introducing this disease to the Northwest area with some 15 times more population than in prevalent areas in Alaska? Either he’s from another planet or this has to be stupidity at its height! Trying to cover up for this incompetence, the Idaho Fish and Game Dept. is now saying the disease was in the area several decades ago, so it is now okay to reintroduce it or a different strain to the Northwest. How much more idiotic thinking will this project lead to?

What are the ramifications of introducing a disease carrying animal species, as Canadian wolves infested with Hydatid tapeworm disease, to large public land areas, numerous farms and ranches with livestock and families throughout the area alongside some larger cities? This is an area that is inhabited by a high percentage of people who hunt, fish and recreate in the forest areas where wolves are now multiplying.


The chances of infection spreading from wildlife species to domestic animals and humans who have never been confronted with the Hydatid disease before now is highly probable. Livestock and pets can become infected as well as big game species. Fish and game departments will begin losing revenue because of fear by hunters and outdoors people of becoming infected. Whatever the motives were (and are), the biologists are succeeding beyond expectations of burdening the people of the Northwest senselessly.

What is Hydatid disease and how serious is it for humans? Below are several case histories in Canada.

From: Shlomo Leviav, MD; Dov Weissberg, MD, FRCSC, FACS, FCCP. 1996. Traumatic rupture of hydatid cysts. Canadian Journal of Surgery 1996; 39: 293-296. See [here].

4 Case histories (Hydatid cysts)

Case 1 (Similar to Cases 2,3 and 4):

A 21-year-old student of physical education received a blow to the abdomen during a soccer game. Because of acute abdominal pain, exploratory laparotomy was performed 4 hours after the accident. The main finding was a ruptured hydatid cyst of the splenic flexure of the colon. The cyst communicated with the lumen of the colon and was infected. There was widespread peritonitis. In addition, two intact hydatid cysts were found in the liver, each one more than 10 cm in diameter. The splenic flexure was resected, the distal segment of colon was closed and a colopexy of the descending colon done; a proximal colostomy was established. Both cysts in the liver were unroofed. The fibrous pericysts were suture-plicated and drained. One week after the operation the patient’s temperature rose to 39 ƒC. A subphrenic abscess on the right side was diagnosed and was drained through a subcostal incision. Antibiotics were administered parenterally. Six months later the ends of the colon were reanastomosed and the colostomy was closed. The patient was followed up for 12 years and did well.

Did the so-called biologists involved in the introduction take necessary precautions and conduct tests based on available information before the introduction? The answer is a resounding “NO” although Hydatid disease has been documented in Alaska and Canada for many years. Dr. V. Geist, a renown Canadian wildlife biologist, warned about the introduction of the disease numerous times but no one apparently took him seriously to this day.

George Dovel, Editor of The Outdoorsman, wrote the following:

Feb-March 2006, The Outdoorsman: “If we generate dense wolf populations it is inevitable that such lethal diseases as Hydatid disease will become established.”

Dec. 2009, The Outdoorsman: “My first Outdoorsman article on Hydatid disease caused by the tiny Echinococcosis granulosus tapeworm was published nearly 40 years ago. Back then we had many readers in Alaska and northern Canada where the cysts were present in moose and caribou, and my article included statistics on the number of reported human deaths from these cysts over a 50 year period….”

http://westinstenv.org/wildpeop/2010/03/01/hydatid-disease-medical-reports/#more-604

[bearpaw]

good post wolfbait....

[Sporting_Man]

I wrote a few times, reffering to these articles that Wolfbait shared with us, all regarding how scarry the hydatid disease is... I mentioned a few cases on people that I used to know. My mom just yesterday told me, that my uncle was infected with IT and had a surgery performed on him 5 years ago. I thought that he had some herpes, I just wasn't too interested. He survived, but with a good part of his lungs taken away. He lived in rural Croatian landscape, where jackals were unchecked for a number of years...
I just say again, people, this is a serious crap thrown at us, it doesn't even matter what politics is behind this any more, because the result is just too damaging...
Canids all over the place = HYDATID DISEASE all over the place. As simple as this. Don't forget how many dogs and todlers will get infected before this population change and adjust their habits to this new condition in the woods...     

[bearpaw]

Sporting_Man, sorry to hear, that is exactly what Dr Val Geist has tried to warn people about.

(Not sure, but it seems that somewhere I read Geist lost a relative to that disease too.)

If these eggs can survive on the ground for months even years, it's easy to see how that scenario could play out for some unsuspecting kid playing on the floor.

[rasbo]

that's scary to say the least..A vet told me that parvo could stay on a shoe for two yrs this after we lost a young pup I bought my kids..It seems there was also some disease that was in  mouse droppings that was hurting some on the eastside.Are these similar I wonder

[bearpaw]

Theres many different parasites, but data says very similar parasites are also hosted by rodents in the midwest. Wolves, coyotes, and foxes can spread those too. The bad thing about wolves is that they cover so much more country and spread disease or parasites much quicker for that reason than yotes or foxes do.

Check out the info on this page: http://washingtonwolf.info/diseases.html

[luvtohnt]

that's scary to say the least..A vet told me that parvo could stay on a shoe for two yrs this after we lost a young pup I bought my kids..It seems there was also some disease that was in  mouse droppings that was hurting some on the eastside.Are these similar I wonder

You may be reffering to the Hantaviris. A local policeman died 2 years ago I beleive, when he was helping the scouts clean out the police gun range. Although it is every bit as deadly I think that a virus is easier to deal with, medicaly, because they don't require surgery to remove them.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hantavirus-pulmonary-syndrome/DS00900

Brandon

[rasbo]

thats correct luvtohunt...good read bearpaw..when I think of all the yotes and cats Ive skinned in se Idaho its a wonder Im alive..Not sure how bad a wolf smells but those yotes WOW as a parasite I wouldnt hang around

[bearpaw]

I hear you rasbo, at this point my personal concern is that our dogs have hunted all over the state of Idaho. I have been telling my son we need to get the dogs all checked, they are bound to have sniffed a wolf terd somewhere on a mountain.
They are bound to pass it to each other, and being around them so much there is high risk for us or anyone around our place, little kids especially.

[luvtohnt]

Shouldn't a standard dose of worm medicine kill any of them if they are in your dogs? Since ungulates are an intermediate host and canines are the definitive host they should only be found in the gut. When you talk to the vet I would be curious to know the end results.

Brandon

[rasbo]

I hear you rasbo, at this point my personal concern is that our dogs have hunted all over the state of Idaho. I have been telling my son we need to get the dogs all checked, they are bound to have sniffed a wolf terd somewhere on a mountain.
They are bound to pass it to each other, and being around them so much there is high risk for us or anyone around our place, little kids especially.

I been thinking about that and the wildlife control business I'm trying to get started..between beaver fever{Giardiasis} and the racoon's roundworm and such,I will need to pay close attention to where and what I might be contaminating...Like grandkids and pets

[bearpaw]

I figured one of these days I would shoot Val Geist a message and ask what he recommends. I honestly don't know what type of medication is needed to get Echinococcus granulosus and Echinococcus multilocularis. If you are framiliar with parasites, various medications kill various parasites, but nothing gets them all.

While I am at it, might as well try to get Neospora Caninum, it is surfacing as a wolf borne disease that can affect cattle, not sure if it affects humans, but it's probably transmittable to any canid if wolves and foxes can carry it.

Now that these tapeworms are in Idaho in large numbers, they are likely going to spread, even our hunting dogs might now be dropping infected terds in WA.

[bbarnes]

Has anyone taken this to the local media?If not grant macomie a reporter that has helped expose the issues at Mt Saint Helen's, and its unhealthy elk herd would love to hear about this.Also will you and others be attending the WDFW commission meeting this weekend, that's the platform you should be talking with.Invite the local media bring the facts and help stop them from createing a wreckless endangerment situation for our state to be sued over.STAND UP AND BE HEARD hope to see you there.

[rasbo]

Shouldn't a standard dose of worm medicine kill any of them if they are in your dogs? Since ungulates are an intermediate host and canines are the definitive host they should only be found in the gut. When you talk to the vet I would be curious to know the end results.

Brandon

good I would think it might..seems if not,most country and hill dogs would be ill often

[Aneoakleaf]

 
Another good reason not to let your dog lick your kids face!
Someone needs to take this to the Bio's in this state in frount of the  commission.
Sounds like a liabality issue for the WDFW Too.  

[Sporting_Man]

Hydatid eggs are in dog poop and subsequently on its paws and hair (especially if they like to rub their backs in dirt).
Dogs that have worms have occasional diarrhea. I do not know if this applies to Hydatid worms. That is how I used to know when my dog had worms. De-worming is not always 100% sucess. Sometimes it has to be repeated in a week or two. 

[wolfbait]

I wrote a few times, reffering to these articles that Wolfbait shared with us, all regarding how scarry the hydatid disease is... I mentioned a few cases on people that I used to know. My mom just yesterday told me, that my uncle was infected with IT and had a surgery performed on him 5 years ago. I thought that he had some herpes, I just wasn't too interested. He survived, but with a good part of his lungs taken away. He lived in rural Croatian landscape, where jackals were unchecked for a number of years...
I just say again, people, this is a serious crap thrown at us, it doesn't even matter what politics is behind this any more, because the result is just too damaging...
Canids all over the place = HYDATID DISEASE all over the place. As simple as this. Don't forget how many dogs and todlers will get infected before this population change and adjust their habits to this new condition in the woods...    

Thank you Sporting_Man, for sharing your story with us, many people do not realize the dangers, and pass it off as, this will never happen to me.  Some even know they have the information and will not share with others, and that my friend really sucks. This wolf situation is about sharing everything and all that you know. Because if you do not than you are not only cheating other folks but you are killing the last of our game herds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And also the people that you talk to every day who spend time in the woods.

[Sporting_Man]

See, Wolfbait, I live in urban Seattle area and I try to talk to people about this. Many don't care at first, because they are not hunters (I'm a black sheep)... But then, I remind them that all of them tend to go at least once a year to lake Chelan, Alta Lake, etc. for summer fun camping, and that is where the disease can be. Also, many of them have dogs, what is another connection to that danger (left alone that those puppies might get eaten next summer...).
If they give me 5 minutes, I make my point and then it sticks. For how long - it is another topic. So, I am doing my part, as much as I can. I will not stop. Knowing in person at least 3 people that used to be sick, in a country that has cultural pre-cautions to this problem, talks for itself.
I think that you are doing a tremendeous job bringing this stuff up every time with some fresh aspect that might be overseen. I think that it is about time to think of some legal action against this (wolf intro) campaign, since there is soo much going on against general public...