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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2010, 08:09:19 AM »
On a side note.

Seems like no one is upset that they are taking away the bull and buck permits from the Master Hunters.




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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2010, 08:10:20 AM »
Probably only the Master Hunters...

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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2010, 08:22:52 AM »
Probably only the Master Hunters...
Master Hunters seem to get blasted on this site so you probably don't hear much from them complaining.
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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2010, 08:24:58 AM »
Well, it's just like the people with 14 points. They're not going to write letters to the commission and complain about the changes, as it benefits them.

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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2010, 08:27:36 AM »
Probably only the Master Hunters...
Master Hunters seem to get blasted on this site so you probably don't hear much from them complaining.

I agree, but I don't even hear the MH guys talking about it.




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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2010, 08:29:57 AM »
Maybe they haven't noticed yet.

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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2010, 08:35:48 AM »
On a side note.

Seems like no one is upset that they are taking away the bull and buck permits from the Master Hunters.

why would anyone be upset about that??
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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #37 on: March 17, 2010, 08:38:35 AM »
On a side note.

Seems like no one is upset that they are taking away the bull and buck permits from the Master Hunters.

It doesn’t bother me, but I’m not an antler collector.  What does suck is it looks like you will lose points if drawn for a HC hunt.  I’m not seeing a lot of incentive to participate in those.

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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2010, 08:46:41 AM »
"Had we chosen other ways to distribute points, I am certain we would have been criticized for them as well."

 :ass: :bs:

If they had decided to let the applicant choose what category they wanted their points to be placed I doubt anyone would complain.

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What makes me mad about this is that it was nice for kids because drawing a cow tag only took maybe 2-3 years.  So every two to three years if you have a kid you can plan on them smoking a cow.  Or at least seeing legal cows to shoot.  What about now?  How long is it gonna take now for your kids to get drawn for a cow?  Now that a bunch of guys with 8-10 points are in the mix.  It's gonna be just as tough now to draw a cow tag as it will to draw a bull tag.  Maybe even harder.  In some GMU's they give out more branch tags than cow tags.  How do we expect to keep hunter numbers up or keep our kids interested if they don't have opportunities?  That's where our hunting numbers went.  Without opportunity people either give up or they go elsewhere. 
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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2010, 08:47:14 AM »
On a side note.

Seems like no one is upset that they are taking away the bull and buck permits from the Master Hunters.


Doesnt bother me either.  I dont think there are any decent MH buck permits, and as far as bulls, I dont eat horns, and happy with a nice fat cow.

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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #40 on: March 17, 2010, 08:57:31 AM »
How does the new  special-drawing system do the following?

(First, it would reduce the number of applicants in each drawing, thereby potentially improving hunters' odds of being selected for hunts they prefer"

Dave Ware said that here: http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/2010_changes_faq.html)


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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #41 on: March 17, 2010, 09:01:10 AM »
It really bothers me that WDFW said on the FAQ section that they are distributing the points that way "to ensure fairness".  WTF...............

If they really wanted to ensure fairness, they would allow you to choose what category your points should be dropped into.

I'm likely done applying for any permits except the "quality" buck and bull permits now.  I don't want to fund any of their programs when they are just a bunch of liars and idiots.

If they really cared about hunters, they would get rid of the wolves, have more liberal cougar hunting, allow dogs to be used for coyotes, stand up for hunters and strongly oppose the stupid initiatives like banning hunting with hounds, trapping ban, and bear baiting.........the list goes on.  Bottom line, there's too damn many predators in this state eating our deer and elk............and WDFW should be doing something about that.  

If they could improve the quality of the deer and elk herds, then they could have more permits available.....thus allowing us to draw permits more often.  But they would rather just add a whole bunch of categories in the draw system to gain more money instead of actually helping the deer and elk herds.
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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #42 on: March 17, 2010, 09:04:03 AM »
I have no interest in "quality" buck and bull permits.  I wonder if I can sell my points to someone who does. 

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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #43 on: March 17, 2010, 09:33:07 AM »
What makes me mad about this is that it was nice for kids because drawing a cow tag only took maybe 2-3 years.  So every two to three years if you have a kid you can plan on them smoking a cow.  Or at least seeing legal cows to shoot.  What about now?  How long is it gonna take now for your kids to get drawn for a cow?  Now that a bunch of guys with 8-10 points are in the mix.  It's gonna be just as tough now to draw a cow tag as it will to draw a bull tag.  Maybe even harder.  In some GMU's they give out more branch tags than cow tags.  How do we expect to keep hunter numbers up or keep our kids interested if they don't have opportunities?  That's where our hunting numbers went.  Without opportunity people either give up or they go elsewhere. 

There is still a youth category so the odds for a child to draw probably won't change!!

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Re: WDFW airs plans for special-hunt drawings
« Reply #44 on: March 17, 2010, 09:49:42 AM »
I have no interest in "quality" buck and bull permits.  I wonder if I can sell my points to someone who does. 
Contact Dave Ware.  He's looking into ways to raise revenues.
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