2010 Spring Bear Hunt on Copalis, Rayonier Property Permit Info

[Bob33]

The Rayonier permits have been $25 for many years.  It would be understandable for someone to assume they would not experience a 300 percent increase in one year.  Good lesson, though.  I'll be more careful when applying on private land hunts in the future.

[jgorley]

As a first season hunter in this unit, I was suprised by the cost.  I expected something, just wasn't sure how much.  After thinking about it, it really is a decent deal!  Since they allow camping, it saves me a ton on Hotels or camp grounds in the area.  Not to mention, you feel a bit odd leaving a hotel in camo with a rifle.   I live 2 hours away, and will burn a ton in diesel driving back and forth.  It realistically is a cost of our passion.  Good luck to all!
James

[KillBilly]

So are you and your brother both going to pay $100?

If you each have a bear permit, you could have one hunter and one companion for $100.  If you get the first bear, go get another $100 hunter permit.  That is what it sounds like to me.

That's kind of what I was thinking.

The companion does not get to hunt. They just go along for assistance. It doesn't matter if they had 2 bear tags, only the person that drew gets to hunt. And you can only take one animal in the spring bear hunt.

[bobcat]

Killbilly,

backwoods boy and his brother BOTH drew Copalis. Wasn't sure if you realized that. We were just saying one of them could be the "hunter" and one the "companion" at first. Then if they are lucky and get a bear, pay $100 for the other hunter and hunt for the 2nd bear.

[Bob33]

Right.  Only one of the two brothers with permits must have a permit to hunt from Rayonier.  One could hunt and the other could be a companion, but the post from the Rayonier employee suggested they might not allow that since both brothers are listed as hunt permit holders.  They might require both brothers to pay $100.

[backwoods_boy]

  

[billythekidrock]

Right.  Only one of the two brothers with permits must have a permit to hunt from Rayonier.  One could hunt and the other could be a companion, but the post from the Rayonier employee suggested they might not allow that since both brothers are listed as hunt permit holders.  They might require both brothers to pay $100.

Boy, they get you coming and going don't they. LOL

[markts]

   plus if you don't like it DONT PUT IN FOR IT. theres plenty of folks that would like to draw a tag, if one has a fee associated with it and you don't already accept that you ll pay it if you draw then don't put in for for crying out loud!!!!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Had I known the fee was going up to $100 I would not have put in for it. Mark

[billythekidrock]

   plus if you don't like it DONT PUT IN FOR IT. theres plenty of folks that would like to draw a tag, if one has a fee associated with it and you don't already accept that you ll pay it if you draw then don't put in for for crying out loud!!!!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Had I known the fee was going up to $100 I would not have put in for it. Mark

Can you hunt your lease without paying the $100 or is the lease even in the spring unit?

[markts]

   plus if you don't like it DONT PUT IN FOR IT. theres plenty of folks that would like to draw a tag, if one has a fee associated with it and you don't already accept that you ll pay it if you draw then don't put in for for crying out loud!!!!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Had I known the fee was going up to $100 I would not have put in for it. Mark

Can you hunt your lease without paying the $100 or is the lease even in the spring unit?

Good question Billy, I would think I could hunt it but will have to check. I have seen bear

[divedog]

I almost put in for that hunt this year. What I am wondering is if the land they let you hunt is close to Pacific beach. I called there office this year and was told I would receive a map after I was selected, so I did not put in for it. I have a place to stay in Pacific beach so I am just curious how far I would need to travel to hunt?

[mrgoodwrench]

Mark-  You can hunt on your lease since it is in the Copalis unit; you don't need the permit.....to hunt outside of your lease during the hunt.....I've not heard what they have decided.

Divedog-  Yes, the unit is adjacent to Pacific beach......anywhere from a ten minute to a half hours drive will get you on the property.

[billythekidrock]

Mark-  You can hunt on your lease since it is in the Copalis unit; you don't need the permit.....to hunt outside of your lease during the hunt.....I've not heard what they have decided.

Just for clarification.

Are you saying that a lease holder can hunt their lease (if it is within the spring boundary and they have a F&W spring bear permit) withouth the $100.00 Rayonier access permit?

Then the next statement/guess was you weren't sure if a leasee can hunt the whole unit without the access permit?

[mrgoodwrench]

Yes, a lessee can hunt his lease without the 100 permit IF he draws the WDFW permit.

They may get a reduced price or something on the 100 permit since they have a lease.....but that has yet to be decided....they are insured on the lease......but I don't know if that will apply on the rest of the hunt area.....the underwriters may require different insurance for the rest of the spring bear hunt area.  I don't deal with the policy or politics of all that crap.....I get everything ready to kill the trees and build the roads.....and have been involved with the marketing and on the ground implementation of the lease program.  Not sure what they will decide, but Mark knows the guy to talk to about it.

[markts]

Thanks MRGOODWRENCH, I will call the man on Monday. Mark