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Re: Diesel Exhaust Fluid
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2010, 09:32:20 AM »
We need smaller diesel engines that will power smaller pickups and SUVs... Some people can get away with Ford Ranger sized pickup, with modern and potent diesel, that would yield 25 mpg, or so... 160-170 diesel horses, with tons of torque. I would be first in line for such a truck...
I read some where that Europe has 50% of their auto industry in diesel.

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Re: Diesel Exhaust Fluid
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2010, 09:36:51 AM »
They are coming.

Volkswagon TDI - Turbo diesel insjection.  You can get it in the Jetta or Passat.  My friend has a Jetta from about 2002, and it normally gets between 40-50 miles per gallon.  They have recorded as much as 62 though on other occassions of just strate driving.

Dodge Sprinter - the mercedes long van that you see lots of carpet stores, and fedex driving around are a 5 cylinder Mercedes diesel that gets between 25-32 miles per gallon.

My understanding regarding SISU's comments is that many of the european diesels won't meet the U.S. emission standards, so they remain in Europe and asia. 

Sure would be neat to have a 1/2 ton 6 cylinder diesel or a ford ranger with a small diesel.  But our country will make the emissions so that the ford ranger diesel goes from 35 down to 20 miles per gallon.   :bash:

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Re: Diesel Exhaust Fluid
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2010, 09:42:46 AM »
All over NZ and AU they are driving diesel crewcab toyota hilux pickups. They get super good mileage and haul 4 people. This county is just screwed up the way they do things. I have thought about trying to import one, but have been told they won't let them in due to US standards. :bash: :rolleyes:
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Re: Diesel Exhaust Fluid
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2010, 09:58:04 AM »
The 3.0 liter diesel that is in the Sprinter has been available for a few years here. They also put it in the Grand Cherokee starting in 2007. The problem with the G/C is that you can only buy the diesel engine in an Overland which is a $50k+ Jeep. It will get close to 30mpg in the Grand Cherokee. It is also a $200 oil change every 10k miles. Very high maintenance...Fuel filter replacement recommended every 10k too.

In 2005 and 2006 they put a 2.8 liter diesel in the Jeep Liberty which is a great little engine. The problem is they had EGR problems with them. I think it's a 7.0 hour job to replace one. Lots of problems there. Too bad because it is a neat little smokewagon.

My co-worker has a 2006 VW Jetta with a 2.0 turbo diesel that got 48mpg on a recent roadtrip to oregon. It makes 98 horsepower.

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Re: Diesel Exhaust Fluid
« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2010, 12:11:08 PM »
Do you guys have any reccommendations on what I should do with my 2007 Dodge Ram 6.7L Cummins?  This was the first year they went to that BlueTech emmission system and I've had nothing but problems with it.  Dodge is unwilling to cooperate and there is no fix.

I've had multiple issues with the particulate canister filling up and constant check engine light going on and off.  Their suggestions are to drive with the exhaust brake on at all times (I do), and whenever the particulate canister fills up, to just go run it on the hwy 70mph for 45min to an hour.  Well that isn't an option wehn your in 4wd and in the snow and 30 miles from the pavement.  This has happened to me!

Anyway, any advice?  Thanks.  I heard there is a class action lawsuit I should look into.
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Re: Diesel Exhaust Fluid
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2010, 12:24:57 PM »
Do you guys have any reccommendations on what I should do with my 2007 Dodge Ram 6.7L Cummins?  This was the first year they went to that BlueTech emmission system and I've had nothing but problems with it.  Dodge is unwilling to cooperate and there is no fix.

I've had multiple issues with the particulate canister filling up and constant check engine light going on and off.  Their suggestions are to drive with the exhaust brake on at all times (I do), and whenever the particulate canister fills up, to just go run it on the hwy 70mph for 45min to an hour.  Well that isn't an option wehn your in 4wd and in the snow and 30 miles from the pavement.  This has happened to me!

Anyway, any advice?  Thanks.  I heard there is a class action lawsuit I should look into.

Do you tow anything with it,or is it just a daily driver?

My dad has an '07 with the 6.7 with close to 30k miles on it. He had one re-flash done at about 10k miles but other than that its been absolutely trouble free.

About 95% of the time its driven he is towing something. Its never just driven around town.

From everything I've read,the guys with the most issues with the 6.7 are the guys that don't work their truck.

My '07 with the last of the 5.9s has had more issues than his (supposedly problematic) 6.7

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Re: Diesel Exhaust Fluid
« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2010, 12:31:13 PM »
Do you guys have any reccommendations on what I should do with my 2007 Dodge Ram 6.7L Cummins?  This was the first year they went to that BlueTech emmission system and I've had nothing but problems with it.  Dodge is unwilling to cooperate and there is no fix.

I've had multiple issues with the particulate canister filling up and constant check engine light going on and off.  Their suggestions are to drive with the exhaust brake on at all times (I do), and whenever the particulate canister fills up, to just go run it on the hwy 70mph for 45min to an hour.  Well that isn't an option wehn your in 4wd and in the snow and 30 miles from the pavement.  This has happened to me!

Anyway, any advice?  Thanks.  I heard there is a class action lawsuit I should look into.

There's probably 5-6 different service bulletins and repairs for the problems with the 6.7's.
It no longer has anything to do with the work factor. There's DPF's getting replaced, turbo's getting replaced, software updates that change the way the regen process happens, an EGR and turbo cleaning procedure, etc. Bring me the truck and we will fix it for you. It is not uncommon for the truck to need a couple repairs depending on the nature of the problem.
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I love replacing turbo's under warranty.
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Re: Diesel Exhaust Fluid
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2010, 12:45:47 PM »
p.s. most of the stuff is covered by the emissions or the cummins engine warranty to 100k miles
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Re: Diesel Exhaust Fluid
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2010, 12:53:06 PM »
Jackelope, in 1983 myself and a friend who owned a diesel VW Rabbit drove to Houston TX. If I remember correctly it cost us about $20 each to split the fuel. We were getting about 50 mpg. You would think America would have inproved upon this by now. Friggin sad state of affairs.... :bash:
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Re: Diesel Exhaust Fluid
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2010, 01:01:11 PM »
All these new "enhancements" are hurting sales of diesel rigs. I bought a 2003 ford recently, but a diesel mechanic friend told us not to buy any ford diesel newer than 2003. We figured he knew what he was talking about.

We tried to find another older dodge diesel about a month ago, but the resale on the older diesels is just sky high because everyone wants the older trucks rather than the new ones. :twocents:
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Re: Diesel Exhaust Fluid
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2010, 01:06:05 PM »
I've been waiting and watching for the right truck to get traded in here....
5.9L diesel, 2006 or early 2007(before they switched to the 6.7L Bluetec) megacab...
Haven't seen one with good miles in 8 months of watching.
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Re: Diesel Exhaust Fluid
« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2010, 01:22:02 PM »
Jackelope, in 1983 myself and a friend who owned a diesel VW Rabbit drove to Houston TX. If I remember correctly it cost us about $20 each to split the fuel. We were getting about 50 mpg. You would think America would have improved upon this by now. Friggin sad state of affairs.... :bash:

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Re: Diesel Exhaust Fluid
« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2010, 03:52:41 PM »
All these new "enhancements" are hurting sales of diesel rigs. I bought a 2003 ford recently, but a diesel mechanic friend told us not to buy any ford diesel newer than 2003. We figured he knew what he was talking about.

We tried to find another older dodge diesel about a month ago, but the resale on the older diesels is just sky high because everyone wants the older trucks rather than the new ones. :twocents:

My 98.5 Cummins sport quad cab shortbox with 80k miles on it cost $12000 :o

Granted it has some go mods done to it as well and looks brand new.

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Re: Diesel Exhaust Fluid
« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2010, 04:47:04 PM »
We need smaller diesel engines that will power smaller pickups and SUVs... Some people can get away with Ford Ranger sized pickup, with modern and potent diesel, that would yield 25 mpg, or so... 160-170 diesel horses, with tons of torque. I would be first in line for such a truck...

I agree with sporting_man.  There all these small to midsized tractors out there.  These things can run 6-8 hrs pulling implements at 2500-3000 rpm on 5 gallons of fuel.  Put that same motor in a small truck or SUV and now you have a work horse.

What ever happened to all the diesel cars and trucks that was around in the 80's?

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Re: Diesel Exhaust Fluid
« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2010, 05:09:38 PM »
I was in Cummins NW a couple month's ago and the tech there said that with this exhaust fluid running in the truck the exhaust coming from the truck will be cleaner than the air that people breath in every major city in America.  :dunno: But It sure will be interesting to see this progress

 


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