Spring Bear in Lincoln 501

[bobcat]

The gate I am thinking of that is open and appears to be a red dot (looks like the dot has been removed and there are only remnants of it) is open and there doesn't appear to have been any activity behind that gate. Also it has been open on the weekends, which if they were working in there I would think they would at least close it over the weekend. There are at least two gates in the Bunker Creek area that are green dots but are shown as yellow dots on the map.

[BrushChimp]

Sounds like it be okay to enter all three of those gates (removed red dot and 2 green dot)...

[bobcat]

Sounds like it be okay to enter all three of those gates (removed red dot and 2 green dot)...

Not sure about the "removed" red dot. The signs say: "Red dot or no dot" = no motorized vehicles   

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

The one with the "removed " green dot is open for the guys cutting in above the creek to take a shortcut to the 622, because the gate at the end of the road isn't open until the 15th.
I don't know if they plan on locking it back up or not....
I talked to them and they didn't care if I went in that way, but were not enforcement officials either.........
The whole area in north of Bunker/Ingalls is behind red dots, but the gates are open...
I have asked about it, because the map they gave us shows yellow, but who knows how long it will take to get an answer.....

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

I just got off the phone with Donny Martorello of Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife, He was very helpful and cleared up a few things, and is going to get answers to the rest of my questions....
The good news is that Weyerhauser is only going to be allowed 4 (yes 4) depradation permits for the year, and only if they claim we are not being effective......Hound hunters will not be allowed to hunt while we are, so we won't be competing.
The e-mail system will inform us of where they are having damage occure, with updates on any new damage.
The bad news is that they actually gave out 75 permits for the area, so it might get a little crowded.
He is trying to gain more access for us, and find out about the green dot roads.

I posted this on a different thread, but figured it should be here also...

[billythekidrock]

Sounds like it be okay to enter all three of those gates (removed red dot and 2 green dot)...

According to the sign it is not ok to enter with a vehicle if the dot has been removed.

[Ghost Hunter]

The map is titled 'Lincoln Spring Bear Hunt 2010'.  Wouldn't that be the guide or 'access permit' for tag holders during specified times

[billythekidrock]

The map is titled 'Lincoln Spring Bear Hunt 2010'.  Wouldn't that be the guide or 'access permit' for tag holders during specified times

Like a pass to allow you to drive closed roads with open gates?
You would think they would have something like that, but I don't see anything like that it in any of the literature.

[Ghost Hunter]

The map is titled 'Lincoln Spring Bear Hunt 2010'.  Wouldn't that be the guide or 'access permit' for tag holders during specified times

Like a pass to allow you to drive closed roads with open gates?
You would think they would have something like that, but I don't see anything like that it in any of the literature.

It specifies the non-motorized access area.  Specifies when the other areas are open.  Has Weyerhaeuser emblem on the 'document'.  I'm going to interpret it that way.  Would think the jury would too.

[bobcat]

Ghost Hunter, I think I would interpret it that way also. The only time Weyerhaeuser is really going to care if you're driving into an area that may be questionable, is if they are hauling logs out of there on the same roads. It's not like right now is a high fire danger time of the year. Personally I would drive in on any of the roads that have open gates that aren't shown as red dots on the map, as long as they aren't actively working in the area.

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

There are several areas of active logging in that area, I asked about the discrepancy between the supplied map and the signs/dots, etc..
I am still waiting for response.
I asked if the map supplied superceded the dots, because otherwise green dot roads are open for access all week+,
Was told that he (Mr.Donny Martorello) would contact weyerhauser and find out, and get back to me to address my concerns about Turkey hunting in the morning and not being cited for hunting during a closed season, he also said that he would find out why we couldnt drive green dot roads.
As far as I am concerned, I am printing out a copy of map and putting it with permit, in case there is an issue.

[bearmanric]

Is there a map yet. I'm home now. and have no clue. only things I have gotten in the mail is the permit and a yellow envelope for the tooth. Rick

[bobcat]

Is there a map yet. I'm home now. and have no clue. only things I have gotten in the mail is the permit and a yellow envelope for the tooth. Rick

http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/hunter/blackbear/education/weyco_bear_hunt2010.pdf

[bobcat]

There are several areas of active logging in that area, I asked about the discrepancy between the supplied map and the signs/dots, etc..
I am still waiting for response.
I asked if the map supplied superceded the dots, because otherwise green dot roads are open for access all week+,
Was told that he (Mr.Donny Martorello) would contact weyerhauser and find out, and get back to me to address my concerns about Turkey hunting in the morning and not being cited for hunting during a closed season, he also said that he would find out why we couldnt drive green dot roads.
As far as I am concerned, I am printing out a copy of map and putting it with permit, in case there is an issue.

Now that I've had some time to think about this, it seems the map showing green dot roads as yellow dot roads is not really a discrepancy. The yellow dot on the map simply means "restricted," which it is, you can't go in on that road to hunt bears until after 3:00 p.m. Monday thru Friday.

So the roads that are signed with a green dot, I'm assuming you can drive in on those roads at any time, as long as you are not actually hunting bears. You should be ok to hunt turkeys up until 3:00 and then bears after that. Although that does seem odd, I'm not sure they have even considered that turkey season will be open at the same time. I don't see why you couldn't also be in there "scouting" before 3:00. Why couldn't you? The green dot roads are open for the general public to use. You do not have to have a spring bear permit to be in that area. So all I see this 3:00 restriction doing is not allowing you to shoot a bear before 3:00 p.m. Monday thru Friday.

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

I don't see why you couldn't also be in there "scouting" before 3:00. Why couldn't you? The green dot roads are open for the general public to use

Except it states on map that those hours are for "scouting also. RE:Scouting OK during
specified hours.

I'm not sure they have even considered that turkey season will be open at the same time.

They didn't think about that, I am hoping for an answer today, as I am going in at "o-dark 30" with my dekes calls and bow, unless I hear back today that it is prohibited....