Sub MOA my Rem. 700 - .300 Win. Mag. -- 5lb Rifle????

[h2ofowlr]

I was looking at sending in my Remington 700 action in the .300 Win. Mag. and having some work done.  Anyone know what this may run with the below options?  Looking to get down near 5lbs.

Weight 5 lbs. ( May vary depending on caliber and options)
Action Customer supplied Remington 700, then lightened and blueprinted
Bolt Fluted and handle hollowed, lapped and face trued
Barrel Match grade stainless steel Lilja, skip fluted
Muzzlebrake Included stainless Quiet Slimbrake II
Trigger Guard Hinged floorplate, customized with Pear Flat engraving and individually numbered
Bolt Shroud Aluminum hexagon
Metal Finish Black teflon with silver flutes
Stock Hand laminated blend of Kevlar/Graphite and Boron, pillar glass bedded
Pad Rifles' custom

[high country]

you are gonna need to find a smith that will be ok with chewing on th action. 5lbs on a steel 700 means no stock. you ca run a mc edge, lightened action, pin, chew the bolt and the whippiest barrel out to get to 5lbs. I have had a few 6lb guns and it is pretty light. a rem ti in a mc edge or a kimber montana in an edge is about as light as you can go without digging deep into the penny jar.

[MichaelJ]

Doubt you'll have to really do all that for a sub MOA Gun...  With a gun under or around 5 lbs, you're gonna have a TINY scope and short barrel...
If you wouldn't mind something in the 6- 6.5 lb range then I think you're combo looks pretty good...

Just curious on why the weight limitation?  With that limitation, I'd just have the action trued, and adjust the trigger and call it good... maybe a lighter scope, but it's pretty hard to get lighter than factory with increased accuracy, and a lot of stock 700's out there shoot sub MOA groups... just my  and I very well could be wrong...

Michael

[h2ofowlr]

What would the set up mentioned run approximately?  $4k

[jackelope]

and a lot of stock 700's out there shoot sub MOA groups... just my  and I very well could be wrong...

Michael

an average  700 requires work to get reliably under MOA.
I wonder what kind of groups you'd really  get shooting the barrel it takes to build a 5lb 300wm.

[MichaelJ]

an average  700 requires work to get reliably under MOA.
I wonder what kind of groups you'd really  get shooting the barrel it takes to build a 5lb 300wm.

Agreed that a lot of factory 700's don't, but every now and then you'll see an action that will shoot sub MOA or MOA.  Their actions can be a little inconsistent, I've heard more that the more consistent actions (when talking about not needing to be 'trued') are coming from Savage and Tikka, but my 700 does shoot MOA groups at 100 yards (Not sub MOA)...  It's gonna shoot better than that too once I'm done with it, but weight will be a tiny issue.  With a scope I should be around 8 lbs or so with an aftermarket barrel and rechambered in .280 Ackley.

If weight was a serious concern, I'd probably go with a short aftermarket heavy flutted barrel, superlight stock bedded with a good aluminum recoil lug (without one you aren't gaining anything over a factory stock except maybe a few ounces, and a wider channel for a heavier contour barrel, the factory stocks are already super light if they're synthetic.), true up the action and adjust the trigger and have this all done by a competent gunsmith should get him a sub MOA rifle, if he can shoot MOA groups is another thing but the gun should be capable...

Mike

[high country]

4 g's is about the begining of what it will take to get there. if you could add a few ounces or start with a ti action it could be done easier. the metalwork on the action is the killer, both in laborand accuracy. FWIW my 700ti in 270 has impressed me every day of its life, prolly why the finish is wore off of it where my hand goes. it will put 5 into 1" every time. into 1/2" pretty often too.

keep in mind a 5lb 300 is gonna lay a pop on you. the recoil force is not bad, bu the velocity is way sharp, so scopes are not likely to last long......been down that road too.

[Elk-aholic]

The Weatherby MKV Ultralightweight comes from the factory with a 1.5" or less accuracy guarantee I picked mine up for $1,500 and it shoots pretty damn good for a lightweight rifle.

[jackelope]

keep in mind a 5lb 300 is gonna lay a pop on you. the recoil force is not bad, bu the velocity is way sharp, so scopes are not likely to last long......been down that road too.

thats got to be true...

[Woodchuck]

Don't believe i would ever want to be behind a 5lb 300WM, sounds like a set of stitches comin on the express lane to me 

[whacker1]

with the right muzzlebrake it might not recoil so bad that it can't be shot.  You could also look at putting a Christensen Arms Carbon wrapped barrel to lighten your barrel up.  They also suggest the Remington TI action to get lighter.  They claim 5 1/2 - 7lbs depending upon what you do, and they also claim 3 shots inside 1/2" at 100 yards.

http://www.christensenarms.com/rifles.html

[Bob33]

No way the Christiansen in 300 WM will weigh 5.5.  It will go closer to the 7 end.

[ChesapeakeMan]

What area are you in?  From some of your other posts I got the feeling you are in the Arlington area.  That is where I am at.  If you are, then Ron Sinema would be a good guy to talk to.  He produces Benchmark Barrels and does custom work also.  A lot of people shoot some incredible groups with his barrels.  He used to work for Arnold Arms before they closed their doors.  They are located right off the freeway at exit 208 (Island Crossing, Denny's).  Sam's Gunshop in Everett has Freudenberg (?) who I hear does custom work also specializing in long range tack drivers.  Down in the Machias by the shooting range is another fella who does custom smithing with an emphasis on long range accuracy too.  I can't think of his name right now but I could find out.  A guy who has done work for me is an accomplished 1000yd shooter and has him build all his rifles.  If you want directions or contact numbers pm me.  I know it won't be easy to make a 5lb .300 Win. Mag.  One of my buddies has a Remington 700 Ti in 7mm-08 and that sucker feels super light but I think it must be 6.5 lbs or so with the scope.  If nothing else these guys are local and you could at least talk to someone face to face about your wishes.

[whacker1]

No way the Christiansen in 300 WM will weigh 5.5.  It will go closer to the 7 end

I agree Bob.  Tough to do with a long action.  might have better luck with one of the Short action magnums?  One of my friends bought a 300 wsm that Christiansen made and it is in the  5 3/4 range, but not when you top it with a scope.  I think he ends up being closer to 6 3/4 or better after scope.

[Rob]

Don't believe i would ever want to be behind a 5lb 300WM, sounds like a set of stitches coming on the express lane to me 

I have an Rem Alaskan Ti in 300 WM.  7.25 pounds loaded, with the sling, and the ultra light Leupold 3-9 scope.  It is a dream to carry.  It is pure punishment to shoot her on the range.  It has the fluted bolt and barrel and a Titanium receiver.  Not sure how you would reduce the weight much beyond that other than modify the stock in some manner.

She does kick like a mule - far worse than my 338 WM and my buddies 300 Wby Mag.  If you dropped the weight by another 2.25 pounds I think you would want to pre-book an appt for rotator cuff surgery.