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Re: 2010 Martin Shadowcat *Blown Limb and 1 lost GT arrow. TSC 4/15*
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2010, 02:42:10 PM »


Hoyt has the Maxxis 35 with up to a 32" draw. 



I'd be looking hard at the Maxxis 35. I was at the range that night after it broke and it looked bad. I'd hate to see you loose and eye because of bad limbs...

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Re: 2010 Martin Shadowcat *Blown Limb and 1 lost GT arrow. TSC 4/15*
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2010, 08:35:01 PM »
SOLUTION:

Take the Martin back and go pick up a PSE Bowmadness XL. THe longer than normal riser and 36" axle to acle should treat you really well at a 32" draw length. Its supposed to be an amazing bow. I've alsways shot PSE and never had a problem.
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Re: 2010 Martin Shadowcat *Blown Limb and 1 lost GT arrow. TSC 4/15*
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2010, 08:40:45 PM »
 :yeah: very great bow that i have shot allot and i have always shot pse as my hunting bows and never had a problem
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Re: 2010 Martin Shadowcat *Blown Limb and 1 lost GT arrow. TSC 4/15*
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2010, 08:41:35 PM »
That's too bad man! I have heard great things about Martin bows. Good luck and keep shooting.

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Re: 2010 Martin Shadowcat *Blown Limb and 1 lost GT arrow. TSC 4/15*
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2010, 08:44:32 PM »
Nevermind, the Bowmadness Xl is only available up to 30" draw length.

Man you're a freak!

Just shoot a recurve...as big as you are and as good as the new bows are you can get a real flat shooting set-up. If you're hunting the west side you're not likely to get a shot much over 35-40 yards anyhow.

Check out Rivers Edgee Recurves out of Wisconsin. They are real flat shooting set-ups, Robinson Stik Bows are great bowns too.
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Re: 2010 Martin Shadowcat *Blown Limb and 1 lost GT arrow. TSC 4/15*
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2010, 11:40:49 PM »
Nevermind, the Bowmadness Xl is only available up to 30" draw length.

Man you're a freak!

Just shoot a recurve...as big as you are and as good as the new bows are you can get a real flat shooting set-up. If you're hunting the west side you're not likely to get a shot much over 35-40 yards anyhow.

Check out Rivers Edgee Recurves out of Wisconsin. They are real flat shooting set-ups, Robinson Stik Bows are great bowns too.


lol I'll stick with the compounds but thanks for the info...there's a list i have of about +21 bows that are available on the 2010 market in 32" DL. Posted it on here but was quite awhile ago. PSE's Vendetta XL goes to 32" btw. I say my list is short because if you look over 37" ATA that 21 list drops to 11, look over 38" ata and it drops to 4 options. 2 from Hoyt, 1 from Mathews, and 1 from Martin.
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Re: 2010 Martin Shadowcat *Blown Limb and 1 lost GT arrow. TSC 4/15*
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2010, 08:32:36 AM »
I’m 6'5" tall and have owned a 09 martin warthog, IMO you should take back the martin bow and get a mathews,hoyt or bowtec. All of these companies have bows with a long enough draw length for you and IMO are better quality and more accurate.Martin does have the best warranty on the market they will fix it all for free. I dry fired my warthog and destroyed my cams and strings; martin replaced it all for free. Great warrantee not that great of bows. I now shoot a reezen with a 30.5 draw length and am getting way tighter groups and the same speed as the warthog. FYI Mathews bows draw lengths are an inch longer than they say they are; my 30.5 is actually a 31.5.

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Re: 2010 Martin Shadowcat *Blown Limb and 1 lost GT arrow. TSC 4/15*
« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2010, 08:50:39 AM »
I would recommend you go and shoot a Hoyt.
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Re: 2010 Martin Shadowcat *Blown Limb and 1 lost GT arrow. TSC 4/15*
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2010, 08:23:09 AM »
If your going to change it may be worth it to call mathews instead of squeezing yourself into a bow that is a tight fit. They make the Prostar, huge bow for huge people all the way up to 37" very nice bow.

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Re: 2010 Martin Shadowcat *Blown Limb and 1 lost GT arrow. TSC 4/15*
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2010, 09:34:04 PM »
Nevermind, the Bowmadness Xl is only available up to 30" draw length.

Man you're a freak!

Just shoot a recurve...as big as you are and as good as the new bows are you can get a real flat shooting set-up. If you're hunting the west side you're not likely to get a shot much over 35-40 yards anyhow.

Check out Rivers Edgee Recurves out of Wisconsin. They are real flat shooting set-ups, Robinson Stik Bows are great bowns too.


lol I'll stick with the compounds but thanks for the info...there's a list i have of about +21 bows that are available on the 2010 market in 32" DL. Posted it on here but was quite awhile ago. PSE's Vendetta XL goes to 32" btw. I say my list is short because if you look over 37" ATA that 21 list drops to 11, look over 38" ata and it drops to 4 options. 2 from Hoyt, 1 from Mathews, and 1 from Martin.

I guess I missed your other post.  Why are you looking for a long ATA? 
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Re: 2010 Martin Shadowcat *Blown Limb and 1 lost GT arrow. TSC 4/15*
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2010, 02:40:07 PM »

I guess I missed your other post.  Why are you looking for a long ATA? 

Short answer.....String Angle.

Long answer......I have a big noggin'. Not much in it though   :P
If I didn't have the draw length it probably wouldn't be as much of a consideration.

Somewhere around 37" or less in ATA I either have to accept a reduced sight window or I have to start comprimising by tilting my head sideways and/or forward. A larger diameter peep could help compensate for the reduction to certain extent.

I can adapt to shooting a short ATA bow, even a shorter draw down to 30" if need be. For my first new bow purchase I want the bow to fit perfect without compromise. Unfortunately that puts me in a niche market that barely exists  :(
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Re: 2010 Martin Shadowcat *Blown Limb and 1 lost GT arrow. TSC 4/15*
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2010, 06:31:30 PM »
I shoot a BT Destroyer 340 with a 29" draw.  Actual dl is 29-3/4" (very common)  ATA on that bow is just over 32.  I also have a huge melon and don't have a problem with string angle.  Seems angle would be close to you shooting a 35" ATA and 32" dl. 

Maybe I'm way off on thinking this?   :dunno:

Check out the String Splitter for a peep.  I use the Micro.  Best hunting "peep" I have found. 
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Re: 2010 Martin Shadowcat *Blown Limb and 1 lost GT arrow. TSC 4/15*
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2010, 06:51:17 PM »
I shoot a BT Destroyer 340 with a 29" draw.  Actual dl is 29-3/4" (very common)  ATA on that bow is just over 32.  I also have a huge melon and don't have a problem with string angle.  Seems angle would be close to you shooting a 35" ATA and 32" dl. 

Maybe I'm way off on thinking this?   :dunno:

Check out the String Splitter for a peep.  I use the Micro.  Best hunting "peep" I have found. 
Eh its probably like anything else, comes down to a matter of personal preference, anchor point etc.  :)

Gonna give Martin another shot. What the hell, I can't resist stickin' my finger in the light socket again I guess  :chuckle:
Customer service has been good. Joel at Martin is keeping me updated as to the progress. Will be receiving a completely new Shadowcat, full camo version this time with the cloaked cams and the updated limbs. For sure they confirmed the installed strings were the wrong length, but considering they already have updated limbs in the works there was no doubt a concern with the limbs in some manner. It's good to see they've responded so quickly to this, both directly to me and publicly on AT. I'm crossing my fingers that the 3rd time 'round will git-r-done.  :) My bow will hopefully be in by the end of next week or shortly there after. Till then I'm off to chase Easterns with my Browning Gold *grumble grumble*  :chuckle:
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Re: 2010 Martin Shadowcat *Blown Limb and 1 lost GT arrow. TSC 4/15*
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2010, 06:54:38 PM »


Hoyt has the Maxxis 35 with up to a 32" draw. 



I'd be looking hard at the Maxxis 35. I was at the range that night after it broke and it looked bad. I'd hate to see you loose and eye because of bad limbs...

I'm thinkin' safety glasses and a couple layers of clothes till I get my confidence back with the thing  :)
Crazy sht though wasn't it?  :o Wonderin' if anyone will find my arrow, who knows where that damn thing went. Maybe Safeway on 176th?  :yike:
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Re: 2010 Martin Shadowcat *Blown Limb and 1 lost GT arrow. TSC 4/15*
« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2010, 07:22:34 PM »
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