that colockum bull that was taken

[bonkellekter]

It is a very rare occasion that we kill a bull close enough to the road to take it out whole. Not sure what WA rules are for how much and what meat U Are supposed to pack out but Idaho is pretty strict (basically take all usable meat) So if U use this as your guide I am sure U will be OK. As far as packing the head out first - Unless it is a trophy class bull we leave the head and cape and do our best to take all meat (de-boned) on the first trip including the antlers. Antlers alone don't add alot of weight (depending on size). If it takes two trips to get it all than that is just part of the gig and if you can't handle it you shouldn't be hunting IMO regardless of what comes out first. However in a situation where u might have meat spoil if u pack the head and cape out first than it is a no brainer - leave the head and hide for the second or third trip - Hide it if u need too. It is really just common sense.

[Elkaholic daWg]

If I can't get it out whole... The head always comes first....    Just how I roll....

 Not only that, but we have knocked down Bulls on the Colockum in the past where we were not the first people to them and short of a war...there was no way we would have left there with the animal. It happened to me in 1985, and a friend in 1995 ( to loggers in the 4 corners area)

[Pathfinder101]

If I can't get it out whole... The head always comes first....    Just how I roll....

 Not only that, but we have knocked down Bulls on the Colockum in the past where we were not the first people to them and short of a war...there was no way we would have left there with the animal. It happened to me in 1985, and a friend in 1995 ( to loggers in the 4 corners area)

I guess that's why we've always done it that way.  Never happened to me, but heard lots of stories.

[GreggHunts2hard4u]

this is just a portion of the illegal elk killed the past 09 season. i alone stumbled upon 6 dead bulls ranging from 2x3-2x1. note this is just in one area below the pedit and above colockum pass/powerline rd fork. makes me sick didnt every1 take a hunters saftey class that gave you SHOOT or NOT SHOOT situations? if your not sure if its a true 1x1 DONT SHOOT!!!!

[boonerboy]

head first.

[colockumelk]

this is just a portion of the illegal elk killed the past 09 season. i alone stumbled upon 6 dead bulls ranging from 2x3-2x1. note this is just in one area below the pedit and above colockum pass/powerline rd fork. makes me sick didnt every1 take a hunters saftey class that gave you SHOOT or NOT SHOOT situations? if your not sure if its a true 1x1 DONT SHOOT!!!!

WTF?  You can't expect people to be responsible for their own actions, that just is not the American way anymore 

[eatonville45]

allot of people quarter elk and deer this way. Most fail to realalize that there in more meet under the back straps. Mite have been an old man by him self ive complety boned elk out and on there rib cage there is not that much to them not saying you should not do a better job at least they got 98% of the meet and did not leave a head less bull out there.

[GreggHunts2hard4u]

Thats true your right you cant expect ppl to be responsible for their actions, which is why theres more and more game wardens every year and more and more animals killed and not harvested and left to waste. the colockum is a great place to hunt but between the indians and hunters the bull to cow ratio is horrible! opening morning i got into a herd of 200+ cows and calves not one bull now somthing about that isnt right. i think one of the best things the state could do is close the powerline rd from the colockum pass to bruton. the area used to be well traveled by elk but now an elk can barely sneak past the shooting gallery of ppl camped all along the road. close off the powerline road and open a very good elk area that ppl would have to hike into instead of drive right down the middle of. ive seen it happen the guys on horseback scare the elk out of the canyons off of lightning ridge elk head up to cross powerline rd and once they hit the treeline the book it back down hill cuz they know better than crossing the open powerline areas its REDONKULOUS! call me stupid but i think closing the powerline rd would make a huge impact on the elk in the colockum. it might not stop the illegal kills but it would give the elk a little more of a safe haven than the half logged no feed game reserve

[phishisgroovin]

i am just glad the area that opened up to me being able to gimp around on it will be any bull of my choice.
If i see an antler, i am blasting the sum-beech! 

[flyguide]

It doesn't look too bad to me, the rib meat is marginal if you cut off all the flank meat and skin the meat down to the cavity.  I agree with some others on here, it is tough to judge a situation that you weren't a part of.  I have quartered up several large bulls by myself in the backcountry and use this exact approach, in fact, I always use this method on elk unless the truck is close by.... which is never. It is clean and you don't risk any stomach contents ever coming in contact with the meat which is nice.

[3dvapor]

i agree the rib meat alot of times dries out to quick and looks like jerky after a couple days in the cooler.  probably because i usually hunt in sept and is usually harder to  get the meat out in time.

[Elkaholic daWg]

they left so much meat on this bull we got sick looking at it, it actually ruined our trip.
Just sucked bigtime to see a bull down, knowing there was a 5 point raghorn kicking it in the area not worried of the hunters at all, then we seen this on the last day of our week, headed back over the following wednesday and took this round of pics on thursday before the season closed.
this is up on the plateau off the Little carabou rd.

it was a really nice bull that was hanging around there, so we know the guys shot an illegal bull.
look at how large the hoofs are compared to my 10-1/2" shoe.

 328 - NANEUM           total  1pt    2pt   3pt    4pt    5 pt   6+pt
   TOTALS     10     8 18       1      1       0       0       1       5
329 - QUILOMENE - PMU 32
TOTALS                            1    1    2    0    0    0    0    1    0


  Notice where Quilomene seems to only have 1 big bull reported harvested and I bet this is not the one!