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Re: Archery Geese and Ducks?
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2010, 07:50:05 PM »
I don't care how much fun it may be, it's unethical in my book.
just curious, is turkey hunting with archery tackle unethical also?

Well no, turkeys are shot on the ground, where a guy can be pretty sure in making a killing shot. Shooting ducks or geese out of the air I just don't think anybody can be good enough to hit them in the right spot every time.
No not every state has the advantage of shooting turkey on the ground. I've been hunting on the Big Island with the Flips I know and they wait for the VOG to force the birds down from the mountain wing shooting the big bad turkey. Kinda funny to see the big *censored* go flump, flop, roll, and then see a Flip running his ass after the bird through the volcanic a a.

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Re: Archery Geese and Ducks?
« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2010, 08:47:23 PM »
I'm of the thought that most archers who decide to shoot waterfowl or most other birds are going to be a lot more careful and accurate than most people who sling lead and steel at 65 yards and wound them by the hundreds each season. I'm all for shooting the birds and have seen more wounded birds from lead and steel than I ever will from an arrow. I don't imagine a goose or duck would fly too far with an arrow sticking out of it's body. Anyone could get a wing shot but as I said before there are far more people slinging lead and steel wounding birds than with bow an arrow. This I am certain. I think that there is nothing unethical about it. To me what people are calling unethical equates to someone not presenting convincing and conclusive facts to support their remarks.

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Re: Archery Geese and Ducks?
« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2010, 08:55:04 PM »
I have participated in 4 pheasant hunts on a hunting preserve with bow. Use a recurve with homemade Flu-Flus and use a dulled Magnus for the head of the arrow. We were hunting with my dogs. Did not lose any birds.
Have brought out my recurve on a few duck hunts. Have yet to connect. I have shot a few quail though with my recurve using a bird snare head.
The bird snare heads do not seem to have enough killing powere to bring down a bird larger than a quail. IMHO

 I duct taped up pieces of foam and have the wifey throw them up for practice . After a week got pretty proficient hitting targets

Can tell you it is a lot of fun

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Re: Archery Geese and Ducks?
« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2010, 08:58:40 PM »
Sorry but to me, a shotgun is for shooting flying birds. You want to hunt waterfowl, use a tool that is made specifically for that purpose. To say, well it's ok to risk wounding birds with arrows because some people take unethical shots beyond the effective range of their shotgun, is just ludicrous. What's the saying... two wrongs don't make a right.

One more quick question and I'm done with this.... is it considered acceptable to shoot running deer and elk with archery equipment?

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Re: Archery Geese and Ducks?
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2010, 09:02:16 PM »
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yes it depends on the shot range i shot my elk last year as she ran by me at 3 yards no prob just depends on the person and the situation.

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Re: Archery Geese and Ducks?
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2010, 06:01:36 AM »
You wouldn't have liked the show I watched the other night......carp fishing with a bow, except this was those chinese jumpin carp and they were shooting them in the air while they were moving in the boat.  The boat causes them all to fly.  COMBAT fishing at its best as teh carp were smacking the guys in the boat.  GOOD stuff.  I know, they should use a fishing pole instead of a bow and arrow, but it was still cool.  ;)

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Re: Archery Geese and Ducks?
« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2010, 06:25:58 AM »
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To say, well it's ok to risk wounding birds with arrows because some people take unethical shots beyond the effective range of their shotgun, is just ludicrous. What's the saying... two wrongs don't make a right.

That's a ridiculous statement. Nobody has said that it is ok to wound birds with a bow and arrow. I think it has been pointed out that the bow and arrow is a valid and lethal weapon for hunting birds and that most who would seriously partake in such activity would be more likely to kill than wound. Contrary to your assertion. I don't know where you get this stuff. To me your statements on this subject are ignorant and irresponsible. No offense, but my understanding is that you are clearly anti archery. I have come to this conclusion because I have read your opinion on random subjects of discussion for several years now. I think that is the issue more than anything. You have presented anecdotal incidents or suggestive discussion and tried to represent it as the authoritative and absolute fact. If you're going to attack archery in this manner you should be prepared to get criticized if you have put together such a flawed argument.
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Re: Archery Geese and Ducks?
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2010, 06:44:51 AM »
If you want to see a bow and arrow on a bird there are many such examples on their effiveness.

http://www.magnusbroadheads.com/bullhead_intro.html

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Re: Archery Geese and Ducks?
« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2010, 07:08:03 AM »
No offense, but my understanding is that you are clearly anti archery.

No offense taken. But I'm not "anti archery." How could I be? I hunted for two years with a bow, for deer and elk, and may go back to it again. We've all got our opinions, and mine is that it's crazy to try to hunt ducks with a bow. Pheasants I could see, especially if you're somewhere that has a lot of birds like South Dakota. Ducks and geese fine, but let them come in to the decoys and land, and than take the shot. If that's how this is done, then I misunderstood. I thought we were talking about trying to shoot ducks out of the air with a bow and arrow. 

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Re: Archery Geese and Ducks?
« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2010, 07:19:10 AM »
If you want to see a bow and arrow on a bird there are many such examples on their effiveness.

I don't have time to watch a video right now but I really don't need to. I don't doubt their effectiveness on birds. But I do think a person is not always going to hit dead center on a duck or goose. (unless we're talking about birds that are not moving, I'm still not sure about that.)
« Last Edit: May 20, 2010, 07:26:26 AM by bobcat »

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Re: Archery Geese and Ducks?
« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2010, 07:26:33 AM »
Some guys are really good shots. I wouldn't put the moving shot at the correct range past some people. I am not one of those people but seeing is believing.

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Re: Archery Geese and Ducks?
« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2010, 11:44:51 AM »
How many times have you seen a duck or goose on the news on TV with an arrow sticking out of it? I've seen it many times.
What Channel was that on??? and when??? I want to see!!!!!! :chuckle:

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Re: Archery Geese and Ducks?
« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2010, 12:04:37 PM »
If you want to see a bow and arrow on a bird there are many such examples on their effiveness.

I don't have time to watch a video right now but I really don't need to. I don't doubt their effectiveness on birds. But I do think a person is not always going to hit dead center on a duck or goose. (unless we're talking about birds that are not moving, I'm still not sure about that.)

Dead Center??? I don't think hitting dead center on a bird is crucial!!!!! It will die no matter where you hit the thing! Unless you wing shoot it... It will have an inch and a half whole threw it!!!!!!!! get it???  :bash:  :bash:  :bash:

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Re: Archery Geese and Ducks?
« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2010, 12:05:38 PM »
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To say, well it's ok to risk wounding birds with arrows because some people take unethical shots beyond the effective range of their shotgun, is just ludicrous. What's the saying... two wrongs don't make a right.

That's a ridiculous statement. Nobody has said that it is ok to wound birds with a bow and arrow. I think it has been pointed out that the bow and arrow is a valid and lethal weapon for hunting birds and that most who would seriously partake in such activity would be more likely to kill than wound. Contrary to your assertion. I don't know where you get this stuff. To me your statements on this subject are ignorant and irresponsible. No offense, but my understanding is that you are clearly anti archery. I have come to this conclusion because I have read your opinion on random subjects of discussion for several years now. I think that is the issue more than anything. You have presented anecdotal incidents or suggestive discussion and tried to represent it as the authoritative and absolute fact. If you're going to attack archery in this manner you should be prepared to get criticized if you have put together such a flawed argument.

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Re: Archery Geese and Ducks?
« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2010, 12:06:22 PM »
RAY YOU ARE NOW MY NEW BEST FRIEND!!!  :chuckle:

 


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