Oregon hunters oppose bright orange safety clothing

[KillBilly]

http://www.thenewstribune.com/2010/05/15/1187526/oregon-hunters-oppose-bright-orange.html

[bobcat]

It's ridiculous when the government starts telling the people what color clothing they have to wear.  Why orange? Why not pink?

[rasbo]

I wear it when rifle hunting and make damn sure my wife and kids wore plenty..Its ashamed it has come to that,but a great deal of hunters in the woods are unsafe,I see a lot of it each year..I have to not only watch that an animal dont pick up on me,but hunters also..I would like having the choice,and If I did here I would still wear it...I dont like the goberment telling me what I have to do..If that makes any sense

[bobcat]

I probably would wear it sometimes if it were not a law here, but other times, like when it's really raining, I like to throw on a good rain coat over everything. Problem is my rain coat is not orange. Or, what if you put a backpack on over your orange? You're no longer legal.

[runamuk]

It's ridiculous when the government starts telling the people what color clothing they have to wear.  Why orange? Why not pink?

I agree I want to wear hunter pink and there is some green and yellow out there that is blinding... I hate orange to be honest.  Idaho doesn't have hunter orange rules and I dont think they have an excessive number of accidental shootings  this whole government knows best is getting really old really fast.....we should be able to make our own choices I dont wear orange during bear season still idiots with guns in the woods and responsible people with guns in the woods just doesn't make much sense.

[Michelle_Nelson]

Even though I understand the reasonings behind states adopting the Hunters Orange.  I think the gov and people are trying to babyproof EVERYTHING.  Accidents happen.  Sometimes they are fatal and that really sucks.  IMO that is the risk you take for participating in anything.  

[sisu]

Actually International pick is a better choice as it does not resemble any fall colors. Back east in the oaks, maples and such the orange kinda blends in. Go with Glo-Pink...   the Rainbow folks would be hitting on ya! 

[Special T]

Here is a novel thought how about using your God given choice and using your freaking noodle! I wear hunters orange when rifle hunting, but have taken it off once i'm 50-60 ft up a tree in my stand... Is it against the law? yep, do i think it comprimises my safty, NO! I Didn't wear hunter orange while rifle hunting in ID last year, and didn't shoot my bro in law or cousin.... Made it harder to push/drive through the woods tho.  Good for Oregonians for standing up the THE MAN and the Nanny State!

[sako223]

I'm all for it. Camo blaze orange makes great camo too.
I know a guy who shot his partner by accident, he shot an animal and it passed through killing his life long hunting partner. He said if he'd worn orange it wouldn't have happened.
I have a friend who saw a relative shoot someone. Again orange would have prevented it.
The main argument I always see is don't tell me what to do. Well when people stop being stupid we won't have to be told. (never happen)
I wear orange so hopefully someone won't shoot me, but have found it to be very good camo in dry areas.
If you got shot once you probably wouldn't think twice about wearing it.

[Curly]

Hopefully the Oregon commission is not like ours and they actually listen to what the people want (or don't want in this case)........

[BULLBLASTER]

Here is a novel thought how about using your God given choice and using your freaking noodle! I wear hunters orange when rifle hunting, but have taken it off once i'm 50-60 ft up a tree in my stand... Is it against the law? yep, do i think it comprimises my safty, NO! I Didn't wear hunter orange while rifle hunting in ID last year, and didn't shoot my bro in law or cousin.... Made it harder to push/drive through the woods tho.  Good for Oregonians for standing up the THE MAN and the Nanny State!

holy cow! you dont need a orange vest 50-60 feet up a tree  you need a orange parachute!

[MikeWalking]

I probably would wear it sometimes if it were not a law here, but other times, like when it's really raining, I like to throw on a good rain coat over everything. Problem is my rain coat is not orange. Or, what if you put a backpack on over your orange? You're no longer legal.

That's why I bought my Blaze vest a size large, it fits over my daypack, I look like an orange VW Beetle....

Having to wear it doesn't bother me, although I'd rather be in something cool like tiger stripe...

[bearpaw]

In idaho orange is not required for big game hunting. I usually wear a dull blue or red just so I do not look like an animal.

I have told this story before on this forum about the hunter I had bear hunting who was sitting watching large berry patches. Suddenly he sees a black bear moving in the hucklebery brush on the hillside below. The bear was slowly moving as it fed on berries, the hunter took off his safety and was waiting for the bear to move out of the brush for a clear shot, suddenly a woman dressed totally in black stood up, he had his crosshairs on her butt in the brush.

He about had heart failure, he was going to quit hunting altogether. Fortunately after a couple days we got him to hunt again. But this guy really did nothing wrong, in fact he did it right, he was waiting for a clear shot and not just pulling the trigger on color in the brush.

Even though I don't agree with forced hunter orange, this clearly demonstrates the need for people to wear some color of clothing not representative of game. The real problem I see is that many ordinary people have no idea that they need to wear the right colors when in the field. Most hunters are pretty smart about avoiding the wrong colors.

That whole affair really scared the crap out of me too.

[carpsniperg2]

every wear there are acidents that orange could of helped i have watched so many people take off there orange in the field just to tresspass on to a property and they don't want to stand out i am all for orange but i don't need a orange dress while in the woods

[Sumpnneedskillin]

When stationed in So Cal I'd wear Orange walking in to check my game cam and set up my tree stand for late bow season.  You'd be surprised at how many knuckleheads use thier scope as a set of binos.

Even though I don't agree with forced hunter orange, this clearly demonstrates the need for people to wear some color of clothing not representative of game. The real problem I see is that many ordinary people have no idea that they need to wear the right colors when in the field. Most hunters are pretty smart about avoiding the wrong colors.

During turkey season I switch from blue or red handkerchiefs to green ones.

[Hangfire]

I don't like having to wear hunter orange but, IT SAVES LIVES. It seems like every year I hear of some one shot in Idaho that would probably not been shot if wearing orange.

Increased hunting accidents, by not requiring hunter orange, would mean more upset non-hunters and more loss of hunting opportunity. Remember Washington is the smallest western state with only California having more total people in the western states, that means more non-hunters.

[Bob33]

If you got shot once you probably wouldn't think twice about wearing it.

Probably wouldn't think about much at all...

[bobcat]

I just wish they didn't have the 400 square inch minimum requirement. I think a bright orange hat should be good enough but a hat by itself isn't 400 square inches.

[grundy53]

i feel the state should tell you what to do. if you feel its safer to wear orange then wear orange. you shouldn't have to be told. we are not 3 years old. i can dress myself.

[Little Dave]

Well, some places in Oregon they just oppose clothing in general.
Sherwin Williams might have the color, don't know.

The gal on Sauk Mountain was wearing blue.  Why?  She was not a hunter.
Even if she was, it was bear season.

Did she have the choice to wear orange?  Sure.
Could the situation be prevented if the shooter was wearing orange?  No.

Leave it a choice for personal safety.
I can't stand the angry mother "there should be a law" people.  They won't stop until we are all padded with bubble wrap drinking public tap water out of recycled metal cans.

[Armadillo]

I find that I get "scoped" at more while I wear hunter orange 

[Special T]

I have a buddythat was using binos to glass a clear cut and this ass hat scoped him.. he(my buddy) put his hands up like what are you doing? he was still being scoped.... He then picked up his gone and scoped the original offender, and he got the idea pretty quick and left.  Some times you just have to spell it out for stupid people.

[C-Money]

I wear an orange hat when big game hunting in Oregon. Its just common sence.

[Machias]

I wear an orange vest and I have orange on my backpack...I want to help the morons out there as much as possible.  Every single year you hear about someone in Idaho being shot while wearing their brown carhartts during elk season.  To me those guys are almost as much a moron as the guy who shot them...not as much but almost!   

[rasbo]

one yr in the papers in Idaho there was an article... ranchers beef was shot,there was a cartoon in the paper where the guy painted the word cow on all his cattle..This is true the next week another rancher lost a beef to a hunter..The paper put out another cartoon,this time he painted the word deer on his cattle...No more reports of cattle being shot

[Machias]

 

[runamuk]

I wear an orange vest and I have orange on my backpack...I want to help the morons out there as much as possible.  Every single year you hear about someone in Idaho being shot while wearing their brown carhartts during elk season.  To me those guys are almost as much a moron as the guy who shot them...not as much but almost!   

this is simply culling the weak from the herd

[Coasthunterjay]

ok so i have been thinking about it for a while...I also have been scoped several times, my father, and bro have...friends have also....i cant stop some moron from pointing there rifle at me....but agree that being on the safer side and wearing orange is a very good thing. Yah some guy might be scoping me which ide really rather not happen, but hopefully since he sees me wearing my big pumpkin suit he wont have his finger on the trigger...Were if im not wearing camo and some over zelious hunter decideds to see whats coming out off the bush and sees me as a potential target does have his finger on the trigger...NOT OK....Orange saves, and in my book ill wear it when i dont have to in the bush....and i do.

but some notes to think about for those who have issues with all this......
Deer are colorblind....So they dont know your wearing orange....
I might be wrong but the idea of wearing camo is so that it breaks up your body pattern against whats behind or around you...so you blend in....the different patterns for different outdoor situations, seasons, etc...blah, blah, blah.

Soooooo wearing orange with a break up pattern could solve the issue for those that wear orange and dont want to. And you can think of this as saving your life and still giving yourself and advantage against most the people out there that just wear a big pumpkin suit and stick out....I dont know though...my opinion i guess...but ill recommend to anyone to be smart and wear there orange.

[bobcat]

I still wonder.... why can't I wear pink?   

[Coasthunterjay]

I still wonder.... why can't I wear pink?   

lol...boxers.........

[runamuk]

I still wonder.... why can't I wear pink?   

I am with you not sure why it has to be orange why not glo pink or glo yellow or glo green....

[MikeWalking]

but some notes to think about for those who have issues with all this......
Deer are colorblind....So they don't know your wearing orange....
I might be wrong but the idea of wearing camo is so that it breaks up your body pattern against whats behind or around you...so you blend in....the different patterns for different outdoor situations, seasons, etc...blah, blah, blah

Good Point.  Deer are colorblind and see everything in shades of gray but see a wider wavelength of light than humans, from deep in the Infrared to Ultraviolet. What that means is they can see light reflecting off material in ways that we can't. Things like Nylon, Denim, Polyester will shine a bit compared to ferns and pine branches. You can wear blaze orange overalls or tiger stripe and look the same to deer. If they're washed in modern Color brightening detergents you will shine compared to vegetation.

Now if I could just find a Blaze orange wool Ghillie suit and wash it in the right stuff...

[Coasthunterjay]

Now if I could just find a Blaze orange wool Ghillie suit and wash it in the right stuff...

WOW....I TOTALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT BEFORE ALSO...

Think about getting busted from a gamewarden for not having enough orange on and having to pull 400SQ inches of it tied to your ghillie suit off...one small strip at a time putting it together on the hood of his truck.....bet the game warden would still write you a ticket....lol....

[MikeWalking]

[Quote
Now if I could just find a Blaze orange wool Ghillie suit and wash it in the right stuff...


WOW....I TOTALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT BEFORE ALSO...

Think about getting busted from a gamewarden for not having enough orange on and having to pull 400SQ inches of it tied to your ghillie suit off...one small strip at a time putting it together on the hood of his truck.....bet the game warden would still write you a ticket/quote]

  If a gammie saw a blaze orange ghillie suit he might just go the other way

[rasbo]

I still wonder.... why can't I wear pink?   

I am with you not sure why it has to be orange why not glo pink or glo yellow or glo green....

a corkie vest

[bobcat]

You guys ever notice that all the good clothing made for hunters is camo, and NOT available in orange Why buy expensive camo clothing and then cover it up with orange? It's very difficult to even find a rain coat in orange. Lots of green, yellow, blue, but orange is hard come by.

[Bob33]

You guys ever notice that all the good clothing made for hunters is camo, and NOT available in orange Why buy expensive camo clothing and then cover it up with orange? It's very difficult to even find a rain coat in orange. Lots of green, yellow, blue, but orange is hard come by.

I sure have.  Cabelas has catalogs full of camo, but just a few if any orange, waterproof, quiet, uninsulated garments.  I asked once and they told me they don't sell enough to justify carrying it.

[bobcat]

Exactly. I wanted to get a good, orange coat. But they're not available, not in anything decent. I've got my orange vest I like to wear, it has lots of pockets, and a pouch on the back for carrying an extra shirt, lunch, etc. But sometimes when it rains I like to put a good rain coat over my vest to keep all the stuff in my vest dry. Well, once I do that, I'm not legal. Oh well, haven't been caught, or shot, yet.