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Re: How Much Speed is Enough?
« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2010, 05:27:04 PM »
67O @ 275! Holy crap! Talk about some ke! What is your set-up?
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Re: How Much Speed is Enough?
« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2010, 08:17:24 PM »
Woof!
670 grains @ 275fps... I don’t want to meet you in a dark alley.
I thought I was doing pretty good at 490 grains and 235 fps.
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Re: How Much Speed is Enough?
« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2010, 01:52:50 PM »
hmm. 670g @ 275fps.........uh huh  :chuckle:
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Re: How Much Speed is Enough?
« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2010, 06:51:29 PM »
Coach, are you trying to say you have a bow or have seen one that shoots a 670 grain arrow at 275?? :chuckle: Is it a 110# bow?

Recurve... your typical recurve, at 55# will shoot a 570 grain arrow about 175-185... high performance recurves will hit 188-195 with that arrow... at 28" draw!!

I am set up to shoot about 465 grains at about 249 fps.... the accurracy and stability of this setup really seem unreal..... Cant wait to lay the hammer down on something with it!
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Re: How Much Speed is Enough?
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2010, 07:14:29 PM »
Well, if he was shooting something with an IBO of 350, had 80lb limbs and a 31 inch draw he would be right around that.
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Re: How Much Speed is Enough?
« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2010, 08:47:03 PM »
Thats insane...
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Re: How Much Speed is Enough?
« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2010, 10:48:41 PM »
My Boa is rated at 328fps. I get around 298 with my 28" draw. Is fast enough.

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Re: How Much Speed is Enough?
« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2010, 02:49:56 PM »
Coach, are you trying to say you have a bow or have seen one that shoots a 670 grain arrow at 275?? :chuckle: Is it a 110# bow?

Recurve... your typical recurve, at 55# will shoot a 570 grain arrow about 175-185... high performance recurves will hit 188-195 with that arrow... at 28" draw!!

I am set up to shoot about 465 grains at about 249 fps.... the accurracy and stability of this setup really seem unreal..... Cant wait to lay the hammer down on something with it!

Ya thats kind of what I figured.  I have a long ish draw too at 30.5 inches, so that should tack some more fps on there. 

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Re: How Much Speed is Enough?
« Reply #38 on: July 23, 2010, 06:47:43 AM »
Oh man RC.. I wish I had a long draw! 2.5 inches over 28 is very significant...I'll have to look at my records, but I think you are gaining at least 5 fps per inch, so you could be shooting easily into the 200 fps area...which is fantastic...
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Re: How Much Speed is Enough?
« Reply #39 on: July 23, 2010, 07:20:20 AM »
just got my hunting arrows. was gona be shooting the beaman mfx's at 9.4 gpi but they were sold out in my spine 350. so i opted with the carbon express pile drivers witch are 10.6 gpi. my last years arrows weighed 455 grn total. my arrows this year are 485 and i'm pushing them at the astounding speed of 255 fps. super accurate and my bow is very quite with tis arrow setup. im shooting a mission eliminator at 66 lbs 29' draw. i love this set up

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Re: How Much Speed is Enough?
« Reply #40 on: July 23, 2010, 01:55:15 PM »
Oh man RC.. I wish I had a long draw! 2.5 inches over 28 is very significant...I'll have to look at my records, but I think you are gaining at least 5 fps per inch, so you could be shooting easily into the 200 fps area...which is fantastic...

Good to hear!!!  I just can't wait to use my recurve hunting this year.  Ive always used a compound so its going to be a completely different game. 

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Re: How Much Speed is Enough?
« Reply #41 on: July 23, 2010, 02:48:01 PM »
Well, I was just informed that my HOyt, if it was 80# and drew 30 1/2 inches...would do that 670/275 deal...

DANG!

Yeah RC...its a fun deal. I'm actually taking the compound out this year for the first time in 5 years.
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Re: How Much Speed is Enough?
« Reply #42 on: July 23, 2010, 03:10:01 PM »
Well, if he was shooting something with an IBO of 350, had 80lb limbs and a 31 inch draw he would be right around that.
yeah. but what arrow setup would you have to shoot? go with a 30" piledriver or FMJ and add a bunch of weight? because at 80lbs and 31" draw there's spine flex problems.
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Re: How Much Speed is Enough?
« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2010, 03:12:40 PM »
Well, I was just informed that my HOyt, if it was 80# and drew 30 1/2 inches...would do that 670/275 deal...

DANG!

Yeah RC...its a fun deal. I'm actually taking the compound out this year for the first time in 5 years.

Awesome!  I guess its really just changing it up, that what makes it interesting

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Re: How Much Speed is Enough?
« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2010, 07:01:23 PM »
I have read a few articles covering double shafting (inner and outer) alloy shafts with heavy brass inserts and 250+ grain broadheads to build dangerous game shafts; however, most of these were launched from recurve or long bows.

I am not sure what could be done with a high draw weight, ultra-fast compound bow.
Perhaps the GrizzlyStik with weights and points?
They say their 30 inch GrizzlyStik Safari with a 200 grain point will run 775 grains+ with 3, 5 inch feathers.
The shafts are carbon composite and tapered from front to rear for extreme FOC and rigidity.

I spoke with Mr. Schliff one day for about a half an hour at Alaska Bowhunting:
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on shooting his arrows with the compound and he was adamant that not only would they work but they would be devastating. Of course, we were only discussing my feeble 27 inch draw length, 61 pound draw weight and 29 inch arrows.
“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter can not be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles.”

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