Moose permit---please read

[Bob33]

I will find out, but in the meanwhile by all means apply for antlerless if you want.  Even if you believe the disclaimer that says you can only harvest one moose in your lifetime is correct, it only addresses harvest: not applying.  Therefore you have until October to sort it if you draw.  If you don't apply by May 26, you are SOL either way.

[bobcat]

I just sent an email to somebody at the WDFW who should be able to answer the question. Hopefully I will get a reply back soon.

And Bob is right, there's no doubt anyone can apply for an antlerless moose permit. The question is, if you draw the permit, can you legally harvest a moose with that permit.      

[carpsniperg2]

 

[rickc]

I deal with WAC and RCW rules all the time and one does often find conflicting information  but what you need to do is break it down into that section. Under the category "Any Moose" the statement

Who May Apply: Anyone, EXCEPT those who have previously harvested a moose in Washington under the authority of an Any Moose special permit. An individual may only harvest one moose during their lifetime, except this restriction is waived for hunters who have harvested a moose in an anlerless only hunt or raffle and auction hunts.

This statement applies to this category and this category only because of the way the categories are broken down. The sentence saying you can only harvest one moose in a lifetime with exceptions is is a re-use of the old statement (previous years) and does need to be rewritten.
In the "Antlerless Moose" category

Who May Apply: Anyone may apply.

Therefore there are no restrictions to that category, therefore anyone, even those having harvested "any moose" may apply.

[rb2506]

  thats how i read it

[bobcat]

If you read it exactly as it's written, anyone can apply for an antlerless moose permit. BUT... if you have ever harvested a moose with an "any moose" permit, then you cannot harvest another moose. So yeah, you can apply but if you are drawn, you can't hunt.  

[WDFW-SUX]

I though all of this was common knowledge..

[rb2506]

ok why not just say one bull moose per person that should do it right?

[rickc]

If you read it exactly as it's written, anyone can apply for an antlerless moose permit. BUT... if you have ever harvested a moose with an "any moose" permit, then you cannot harvest another moose. So yeah, you can apply but if you are drawn, you can't hunt.  

So does that mean that since I've harvested a bull with the "Any Moose" permit that I can't harvest another moose if I have a raffle or auction permit???

[bobcat]

If you read it exactly as it's written, anyone can apply for an antlerless moose permit. BUT... if you have ever harvested a moose with an "any moose" permit, then you cannot harvest another moose. So yeah, you can apply but if you are drawn, you can't hunt.  

So does that mean that since I've harvested a bull with the "Any Moose" permit that I can't harvest another moose if I have a raffle or auction permit???

Is that a serious question?  

[carpsniperg2]

raffle or auction tags do not count you can shoot any number moose as long as you win the raffle or auction there is no set number you can kill as long as you keep getting them. and if you have never taken one with a specail permit you can keep apply for those as well until you draw one.

[Bob33]

I emailed Dave WAre.  His reply follows:

"I think you understand the reason for the moose application language.  It is because if a person harvested an antlerless moose with an any moose permit, they may not apply for an any moose permit again. I guess I don’t see any conflicting information, but agree that your language may be more understandable."

I stated this in my email: "The question is whether someone who previously harvested a bull may apply for, and if drawn harvest an antlerless moose.  The wording suggests that someone who harvested an antlerless moose first may apply for a “any moose” permit, but the opposite is not clear.

I believe the answer is yes: anyone may apply for an antlerless moose permit." 

My proposed language for an "any moose" application was:

"Who May Apply: Anyone, EXCEPT those who have previously harvested a moose in Washington under the authority of an Any Moose special permit. This restriction is waived for hunters who have harvested a moose in raffle and auction hunts."

That settles it in my mind. If you have harvested any moose with an "any moose" permit, you cannot apply for an "any moose" permit.

You can apply for an antlerless moose permit, no matter what you have drawn, hunted, or harvested. "Anyone can apply" means exactly what it says.

[rickc]

If you read it exactly as it's written, anyone can apply for an antlerless moose permit. BUT... if you have ever harvested a moose with an "any moose" permit, then you cannot harvest another moose. So yeah, you can apply but if you are drawn, you can't hunt.  

So does that mean that since I've harvested a bull with the "Any Moose" permit that I can't harvest another moose if I have a raffle or auction permit???

Is that a serious question?  

No, not a serious question, just trying to make a point. If someone who knows nothing about the topic were to read that sentence and come to the conclusion that you can apply for a cow tag but not hunt, would'nt they have to come to the same conclusion about the other two choices in the same sentence. Just saying. I have a hunch that in addition to revenue, someone realized that there maybe some legal issues if they say that you can harvest two moose if you go about it one way, but only one if you go about it the other.

[boneaddict]

Idaho has a 7 year wait if you DRAW and don't harvest.   They also have mandatory check in AND you have to surrender your tag, notched or unnotched.   This is the best way for them to stop the poaching.  I suppose you can sneek your moose home without notching your tag, but I'd imagine that would be risky.  You then can't go out and fill your tag again or again and you can't killone two years later and put an old tag on it.

AS for WDFW and their mix ups........i understood it as you can apply for antlerless moose this year NOW even if you have currently filled your any moose tag.

[WDFW-SUX]

Are you in for a she-donkey? I am.