Moose permit---please read

[PA BEN]

It looks like if you shoot a bull moose you can still put in for a cow tag. Has it always been this way or is this new this year.
Category/Special Hunt Application Required: Antlerless Moose
Who May Apply: Anyone may apply
Antlerless Moose
Hunt Choice Hunt Name Permit Season GMUs Legal Moose Weapon Required Permits 2009 Apps
8007 Mt. Spokane B Oct. 1 ‑ Nov. 30 GMU 124 east of Hwy 395 Antlerless Any Legal Weapon 14 3,554
8008 Hangman B Oct. 1 ‑ Nov. 30 GMUs 127, 130 Antlerless Any Legal Weapon 7 1,014


Moose Any Moose Hunts in this category allow the taking of either an antlered or antlerless moose. If a hunter reports taking a moose on one of these hunts,
or fails to report his or her hunting activity, no further special hunt applications for “Any Moose” can be purchased.

Antlerless Moose Hunts in this category only allow the taking of antlerless moose. Hunters may continue to purchase future antlerless moose special hunt
applications whether a moose was taken in the hunt or not.

[bobcat]

It's new this year. Before, with only one moose application to purchase, a person who had previously harvested a moose with an "any moose" tag could not buy an application and apply for a moose permit. Now, with the separate categories, everyone can apply for an antlerless moose. They just made it at least twice as hard to draw a cow moose tag as a bull moose tag.   

[Skinnyman]

It looks like the regs have changed slightly from last year to this year. Last years said "An individual may harvest one moose in their lifetime (waived for hunters who harvested a moose in an antlerless only hunt, master hunter hunts, and raffle and auction hunts)"

This year is a little different. The way I interpret it is that you are limited to one moose per lifetime taken in an "Any Moose" hunt (regardless of cow or bull). But after that you may apply for an "Anterless Only" hunt as many times as you want. There is no restriction on the amount of times you can apply for and be awarded an "Anterless Only" moose hunt.

Does that help??

[Antlershed]

In addition to what skinnyman just said, I read it as if you draw an "any moose" tag, and report that you did not harvest a moose, then you may apply for an "any moose" tag in the future. What stops people from shooting a moose and then reporting they didn't... 

[carpsniperg2]

 

[bobcat]

In addition to what skinnyman just said, I read it as if you draw an "any moose" tag, and report that you did not harvest a moose, then you may apply for an "any moose" tag in the future. What stops people from shooting a moose and then reporting they didn't... 

Yep. That's what I was saying in another thread we had a while back. It should be that if you draw an any moose tag, you shouldn't be able to apply again, even if you didn't harvest a moose. The success rates are nearly 100% in every moose unit, and if someone didn't kill a moose it's either because they didn't put in enough time, or were too picky with what they were willing to take. I think odds are bad enough that people shouldn't have the opportunity to hunt bull moose more than once in a lifetime. I think I need to write a letter to the WDFW and inquire as to why it is that way. It just doesn't make sense.

[Bob33]

In addition to what skinnyman just said, I read it as if you draw an "any moose" tag, and report that you did not harvest a moose, then you may apply for an "any moose" tag in the future. What stops people from shooting a moose and then reporting they didn't...  

Bighorn sheep is the same.  Mountain goat is the same.

This is a theoretical possibility, but practically speaking it is unlikely.  First, the odds of someone drawing an "any moose" permit are on the order of 1 in 150 per year.  The odds of drawing two in a lifetime would be very low.   Next, he would have to harvest a 1000 pound animal and get away with not reporting it.

It has actually been this way for as many years as I can remember.

[rb2506]

In addition to what skinnyman just said, I read it as if you draw an "any moose" tag, and report that you did not harvest a moose, then you may apply for an "any moose" tag in the future. What stops people from shooting a moose and then reporting they didn't... 

Yep. That's what I was saying in another thread we had a while back. It should be that if you draw an any moose tag, you shouldn't be able to apply again, even if you didn't harvest a moose. The success rates are nearly 100% in every moose unit, and if someone didn't kill a moose it's either because they didn't put in enough time, or were too picky with what they were willing to take. I think odds are bad enough that people shouldn't have the opportunity to hunt bull moose more than once in a lifetime. I think I need to write a letter to the WDFW and inquire as to why it is that way. It just doesn't make sense.

    why punish them for not taking an animal

[bobcat]

I wouldn't call it being punished. I'd just say they had their opportunity to hunt moose, let someone else have the opportunity, instead of letting the same person do it again. And yes, I realize odds are very, very low of someone drawing a moose tag twice, but still....

[rb2506]

if they drew twice(rare) maybe it is because they have higher standards than us or didn't hunt but either way if they didn't harvest they still should be able to draw again, yeah one more tag I could have drawn

[bobcat]

OK, well maybe I'm off in my thinking. It wouldn't be the first time.     That's why it's good to bounce ideas off people on this site and see what kind of feedback you get.

[lokidog]

I'm with you Bobcat.   

[PA BEN]

I just put in for my cow moose tag, after I drew a bull tag in the 49 unit in 08. When my permit options came up, anterless was there but no bull draws. I might as will start my points now, it took me 10 years to draw my moose tag. 

[GoldTip]

I called fish and game about the way the Regs read, they said absolutely not.  If you have harvested a Moose with an any Moose tag in your pocket, you can not legally harvest another Moose in this state.  The way it works is if you drew a "antlerless" Moose tag as the first Moose tag you've drawn and harvest an antlerless Moose, then you are still allowed to apply in the "any Moose" pool and harvest a second Moose in this state, but not the other way around.

[lokidog]

Goldtip, I think Skinnyman is correct above.  It clearly states "Anyone may apply" under the antlerless moose category.