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Offline Ray

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Re: Baiting Deer
« Reply #45 on: February 25, 2008, 07:24:49 PM »
I read your research. It's more of what was said before. Like I said - Impacting our species here would be a good start. Here = Washington and then some evidence to link them as a widespread problem. Respectfully I would say that you have not provided that link to support such a case where there is a epidemic that mankind is creating.

singleshot - just buying that hunting license already makes you into the enemy. Catering to their wants is not the solution as far as I can tell. They want to you to cater to their wishes. At that point you are under their influence.

In my opinion you'll regret any banning on baiting when you realize that you are making deals with the enemy.

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Re: Baiting Deer
« Reply #46 on: February 25, 2008, 07:28:01 PM »
I think you guys need to get out of the house and kill something.

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Re: Baiting Deer
« Reply #47 on: February 25, 2008, 07:41:03 PM »
I'll agree with you Red Dawg. To me these guys are too worried about what someone else is doing instead of finding plenty of deer elsewhere.

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Re: Baiting Deer
« Reply #48 on: February 25, 2008, 07:44:34 PM »
Why is baiting deer an issue?  Is there some talk of an initiative or something?  Not many people even bait in this state.

I would say no to any ban on baiting.  I'm still pissed about the bear baiting ban, the ban on trapping, and the no hunting with hounds thing.  I don't want to lose any more rights.  I never have hunted over bait, and likely never will, but I don't feel like there are enough good reasons to prohibit others from doing it if that is what they want to do.

As long as there aren't too many deer being taken (to cause a problem with the population) then I don't see a problem with feeding them.  And I seriously doubt that there are too many deer taken due to baiting them.
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Re: Baiting Deer
« Reply #49 on: February 25, 2008, 07:46:48 PM »
I realize it is not a wide spread problem here in Washington but at one time it wasn't a problem in Wisconsin either or Colorado, or Montana or where ever else it is.

baiting may not be the actual cause of the disease but is a big part of it being spread to other deer.

http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/land/wildlife/Whealth/issues/Cwd/doc/cwdscsu.pdf

I'll post this whole research paper if you cannot open the link, I was just trying to conserve space.  :chuckle:

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Re: Baiting Deer
« Reply #50 on: February 25, 2008, 08:09:31 PM »
In Maryland it is legal to bait deer on private land only. I have a corn feeder set up and I leave it up all year round, do I hunt over it no, I will hunt 50 to 100 yards away from the feeder and I will not shoot deer over the corn feeder, I leave the feeder out and I have a ground blind set up 20 yards away and my daughter and I will sit in it just to watch the deer come in and feed, this way she can see the deer up close and learn their feeding habits and I will go over shot placement with her, I need to add here that I do not have a bow in the blind with me.
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Re: Baiting Deer
« Reply #51 on: February 25, 2008, 08:24:53 PM »
I am not trying to get baiting banned. I  would rather that we (hunters ) just viewed Deer baiting as not the thing to do.
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Re: Baiting Deer
« Reply #52 on: February 25, 2008, 08:27:29 PM »
What's worse? The wolves or the baiters?

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Re: Baiting Deer
« Reply #53 on: February 25, 2008, 08:31:28 PM »
What's worse? The wolves or the baiters?

Well one things for sure...when the wolves become well established in this state (and they will) the deer won't be spending a whole lotta time hanging out at bait stations anymore.  :o 

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Re: Baiting Deer
« Reply #54 on: February 25, 2008, 08:31:50 PM »
what a lot of people don't take into consideration out here is the fact that a lot of this stuff is based on the region you hunt, as in what part of the country. we used to hunt on 60 acres of my granddads land. 4 of us. all you guys would go crazy if you had to have 4 people hunting 60 acres of land. back east we had it made because we had 60 acres all to ourselves. a lot of people use bait and stands back there. it's legal. did i do it? no. do i think it's ok to do? sure. as long as it's legal. i won't do it, but i won't criticize somebody for doing it.
those easterners would think all us western hunters that hike 5 miles in to hunt before daylight breaks have all gone bonkers.
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i also don't think we are feeding the elk to keep them alive. i think we feed the elk to keep them out of the orchards and to keep the farmers happy on a side note.
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Re: Baiting Deer
« Reply #55 on: February 25, 2008, 08:34:24 PM »
i also don't think we are feeding the elk to keep them alive. i think we feed the elk to keep them out of the orchards and to keep the farmers happy on a side note.

Feeding them to keep them out of the orchards is the same thing as feeding them to keep them alive.

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Re: Baiting Deer
« Reply #56 on: February 25, 2008, 08:39:01 PM »
i guess you could say that...
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Re: Baiting Deer
« Reply #57 on: February 25, 2008, 09:40:54 PM »
Just want you to know that I am not trying to divide anyone here, I am not here to call anyone out for doing something that is legal, that is not it. I could care less what the "anti's" have to say about it, it is all about the health of the deer herd and perserving the population for future generations.

It is going to be sad to have to tell my grandkids that we cannot hunt in Wisconsin anymore because my generation didn't do enough to protect the animals that were there.

It is pretty sad to see Wisconsin eradicate their entire population of deer in certain areas just because they might have a disease, and to think that just a few hundred miles away the same thing may happen in the near future if things don't change.

Weather it is legal or not is not the point and taking away rights is no argument either. I don't want to see anyones right to do anything taken away but I also don't want to see me in 25 more years apologizing to my grand kids for not doing enough.
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Re: Baiting Deer
« Reply #58 on: February 25, 2008, 09:46:04 PM »
good point

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Re: Baiting Deer
« Reply #59 on: February 25, 2008, 10:51:37 PM »
Correct !!

Ethical fair chase hunters don't need electronic advantages to be successful.

For the record, I am not criticizing any one personally, I am simply speaking up about something I feel strongly about and I appreciate your points of view, I may not like the methods some folks chose to use to kill off our game animals but I would feel worse if I had kept quiet about it.
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