Baiting Deer

[Ray]

I believe that the idea of outlawing baiting deer is a slippery slope. What is baiting? That is an important definition to consider because it may be a different distinction if you ask 10 different people.

[popeshawnpaul]

I don't understand why hunters fight amongst each other instead of focusing their efforts on the true enemy...the anti-hunting groups.  Outfitter is right, we have bowhunters fighting against rifle hunters.  If someone puts in an ounce of effort to fight against baiting before putting that energy against a group like PITA then we all lose as hunters.  In-fighting betwen different hunting types/methods only weakens the overall perception of hunters to non-hunters...in my opinion.

Shawn

[Ray]

I have to agree with Popeshawnpaul

I also agree that PETA Is a PITA

Pain in the Ass

[Skyvalhunter]

Hey I see no problem with baiting. If thats what a person wants to do and it is legal more power to them.

[Coasthunterjay]

Basically if you don't agree with it don't do it,and don't bitch and complain about the people who do !! Its legal !!

 

[WDFW-SUX]

I have no opinion on the subject.  I have baited and it works really well just not my cup of tea.  I actually passed up a bull that was standing on a bait pile one time.  If someone else wants to do it I think its fine and is a personal choice.  Bears on the other hand I am 100% in favor of using bait.

If I am paying a guide for a deer or elk hunt and he is using bait as his main method of patterning game I would be seriously disappointed.

[boneaddict]

ditto what Passion said.
ok, I haven't baited, but ditto the sentiment.  I really don't think its in good taste, but making anything like that illegal, opens a big can of worms for the anti dudes. 

[robodad]

It don't make a bit of difference how many tags you have to fill, If it is so hard for you to fill tags in an area that is so "covered up" with deer that you need to bait them to you then you really need to find something else to do for a living cause you are missing something.

Game animals should be left alone and if they starve to death then that is fine, if they multiply like rabbits then open more seasons to harvest more of them, but they need to be left to survive on their own and we need to stay out of their life until hunting season and hunt them under fair chase conditions.

If you bait deer and then charge your clients trophy fees well shame on you, that segment of the deer population has essentially been stolen from the rest of us who hunt fair chase. and your hunters should never have to pay more for a bigger deer.

If you have a high fence around your feeders and the only animals that can eat from them are those inside the high fence that you own personally then I could see your point but if they are a population of deer that I should have every right to hunt and you keep them on your own land by baiting them then you are basically a thief.

You don't need to bait deer for hunting, what you need to do is your homework and find better hunting areas.

I have also been told by so called (hunters)that Trail cameras should be banned because you are cheating patterning an animal to kill it.

I think trail camers should fall within the rule of no electronic devices and they should not be used during hunting seasons.

[huntnphool]

There is NO DIFFERENCE!!! between throwing some grain on the ground under a tree stand for an archer, or hanging a scent strip from a bush beneath a tree stand or setting a tree stand in a tree at the edge of a alfalfa field, Tecomate food plot, Mossy Oak Biologic food plot etc, just to name a few. Anyone with todays high power rifles can drop a buck 400 yards on the other side of the field, technically its all baiting and I'm okay with it, as long as there are no fences involved. Personally I wouldn't go to a game farm, high fence I mean, unless I was physically disabled. I understand they all have their place in the world and can see why they are needed. I wouldn't begrudge a wheelchaired person the opportunity to hunt just because I wouldn't hunt there, I'm Glad they are still out doing it.

[Ridgerunner]

Here comes the ethical police, hopefully this site isn't starting the MM slippery slide.  As long as its legal go ahead and make your own decisions as to what you want to do. 

[Ray]

I agree Ridgerunner. I could go and say that if you don't hike more than 4 miles away from your car that you are ethically incorrect, lazy and otherwise shooting easy prey. I prefer not to and I don't think like that.

[PolarBear]

The folks that piss me off are those who sit on a critter all summer with a trail cam and a bait pile and then brag about how tough of a hunt it was.  What is worse is those jokers who actually enter these "trophies" into the record books, magazines etc.  There should be a special category for artificially enhanced or attracted animals.  I'm going to start a record book for entering livestock.  It's the same thing to me.  Just because it is legal dosent make it right.  Hell, up until last year or so it was legal to have sex with animals in this state.

[Ray]

I think some of the folks who are so animated about the situation would be better of focusing on the real enemy.

[huntnphool]

"Hell, up until last year or so it was legal to have sex with animals in this state."

LOL, brings back memories of those UW Theta Xi frat boys, you go Huskies

[huntnphool]

Hey PolarBear, just curious how you feel about all those hunting shows where they are hunting next to the food plots and alfalfa fields. Is there a difference between these and say some legit agro farmer that you go up to and ask permission to hunt his property? Not calling you out, just want to hear your thoughts.