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Re: Wolves coming to Mt. St. Helens (article added)
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2010, 11:57:26 PM »
"In 2007 a 17-member citizen working group was formed to help state Fish and Wildlife prepare its draft plan.

    John Blankenship, executive director of Wolf Haven International in Tenino and retired U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service biologist, is a member of the group."

Anyone know if there was a single hunter on this 'citizen working group'?
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Re: Wolves coming to Mt. St. Helens (article added)
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2010, 08:07:19 AM »
"In 2007 a 17-member citizen working group was formed to help state Fish and Wildlife prepare its draft plan.

    John Blankenship, executive director of Wolf Haven International in Tenino and retired U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service biologist, is a member of the group."

Anyone know if there was a single hunter on this 'citizen working group'?

I think there were three people in the group that were not pro-wolf.

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Re: Wolves coming to Mt. St. Helens (article added)
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2010, 09:14:31 AM »
All these "working groups" and draft plan inputs from the public are a bunch of crap!!!!!!!!

WeDoF'upWildlife  had a public input thing open for the Puget Sound Rockfish plan until May 20 but already had it in the regs (end of March) that Rockfish would be closed now and forever in the Sound.

They do what they want with impunity as there is nothing we, the ones who fund many if not most of their salaries, can do about it.

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Re: Wolves coming to Mt. St. Helens (article added)
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2010, 10:48:42 AM »
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Re: Wolves coming to Mt. St. Helens (article added)
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2010, 10:50:13 AM »
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Re: Wolves coming to Mt. St. Helens (article added)
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2010, 02:59:41 PM »
ive heard stories of wolves in st helens   for years.        but ive also  heard of bigfoot  there as well ,so who knows..... :twocents:
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Re: Wolves coming to Mt. St. Helens (article added)
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2010, 07:56:53 PM »
Just remember they won't stay near St. Helen's they will move migrate and breed. Can't wait until they show up in Vancouver and Camas.

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Re: Wolves coming to Mt. St. Helens (article added)
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2010, 08:38:38 PM »
When there is not a huntable wildlife herd left the state will finally realize that we, the hunters, are a huge source of $$. They can compare that to how much $$ the damned wolves will contribute. :bash:
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Re: Wolves coming to Mt. St. Helens (article added)
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2010, 08:55:59 PM »
ive heard stories of wolves in st helens   for years.        but ive also  heard of bigfoot  there as well ,so who knows..... :twocents:
Heard stories of two separate incidences regarding wolf kills near St. Helens. One up on the 200 line near the 245 and the other down on Head Quarters rd. near the dump.
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Re: Wolves coming to Mt. St. Helens (article added)
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2010, 08:57:58 PM »
When there is not a huntable wildlife herd left the state will finally realize that we, the hunters, are a huge source of $$. They can compare that to how much $$ the damned wolves will contribute. :bash:
$394 million and 5,600 jobs per the USFWS 2006 estimate
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Re: Wolves coming to Mt. St. Helens (article added)
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2010, 09:16:45 PM »
When there is not a huntable wildlife herd left the state will finally realize that we, the hunters, are a huge source of $$. They can compare that to how much $$ the damned wolves will contribute. :bash:
$394 million and 5,600 jobs per the USFWS 2006 estimate

Yep and it will not take to long for everything to turn over, so far still only two confirmed wolf packs in the state, even though we know that is pure BS. More wolves than most people have a clue and they are eating the hell out of the game herds. Folks will keep on hunting to the bloody end and that will be the end. All of the game herds will be in a predator pit and will probably never recover. :'( Get your pictures now to show your children/grandchildren.

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Re: Wolves coming to Mt. St. Helens (article added)
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2010, 10:24:21 PM »
This Wolf rehabilitation crap is out of control!  >:( Part of this new permit system, oh sorry I mean revenue suck us dry system, is part of lets get all the dollars we can now to support part of the Wolf recovery as well as lining their pockets. I know it is impossible to get every sportsmen/ sportswoman to start scaling back with their own amounts of monies each year towards permits/tags/license etc., but if we all do they will get the picture that we are paying their way and supporting there alternative methods of controlling wildlife. If they don't have all the revenue to support their little wolf scherade, just maybe we can ( outdoor rec./hunter's) can build up enough support together, not divided to sway the odds back in our favor to have healthy and well managed game within our state. I my self cut back immensely this year and last only purchasing elk and deer tags only, have put in for all oil tags/permits for all species in years past and have alot of points, but I enjoy hunting more out of state, and in states with proper game management or the balls to protect hunters rights and privileges and are standing up against this wolf reintroduction. All these employees for the WDFW see less monies coming in and there jobs going to the wayside and are standing there holding a brown bag full of wolf crap, are not going to like not being employed. I hate to say it but money is what is either going to make them push forward with wolf recovery or the lack of money may just make them take another look and start listening to us as a undivided group. What they don't realize, they are eventually cutting their own throat, if the wolfs are controlling the wildlife or soon to be lack of, and no hunting(which is what they want essentially), they will be out of a job anyway, no hunting, no body to control, and no revenue to substain there jobs! :(

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Re: Wolves coming to Mt. St. Helens (article added)
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2010, 06:39:41 AM »
Shoot'em keep your mouth shut !!!!!
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Re: Wolves coming to Mt. St. Helens (article added)
« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2010, 06:54:46 AM »
Shoot'em keep your mouth shut !!!!!
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ive heard stories of wolves in st helens   for years.        but ive also  heard of bigfoot  there as well ,so who knows..... :twocents:
Heard stories of two separate incidences regarding wolf kills near St. Helens. One up on the 200 line near the 245 and the other down on Head Quarters rd. near the dump.

I'd like to hear these stories.... I grew up in Kelso, and have killed elk out of the Coweeman every yr for a long time... Big yotes yes.... dont know bout the wolves though.... Seems as though it would be more spoken of as they would likely have their way with the wild horses as well....

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Re: Wolves coming to Mt. St. Helens (article added)
« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2010, 07:53:55 AM »
The elk population up there is not what it once was.The constant inbreeding,lack of good vegetation,number of elk in a small area,has contributed to lower numbers.There is no need for wolves,they are killing themselves off just fine.If,you plant a couple wolves,then before long,it will be like IDAHO AND MONTANA.I free-guided my cousin last year in the Margaret,and it SUCKS!! Few quality elk,and poor visibility-the noble firs after the 1980 eruption are 30yrs.old and all of 40-60ft.tall with no visibility.I stayed with Mark Smith at ECO PARK,he is a heck of a nice guy!I think he does alot for the people up the valley!!

 


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