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I am having trouble. I cant get the rounds i re loaded to chamber and if i do it is very tight. I followed the directions to the T i cant figure it out. I am new to reloading so please help. I think its a problem with the re sizing die but not for sure. Thanks for the help
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Re: Reloading help
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Probably a sizing die issue but we need more info. What cartridge are your reloading? Belted/non-belted? I assume you are using a full length die? Or, is it a neck sizing die? Are you reloading new brass or once shot? What kind of reloader are you using?
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Using RCBS Full length die. Lee press and RCBS press. 300 WSM once fired Norma and Winchester brass. I am just learning here.
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Re: Reloading help
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Sounds like you need to adjust the sizing die down a little more.
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Re: Reloading help
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First I would make sure that the sizing die is turned all the way down to the shell holder when you are on the up stroke, you don't want any room between the shell holder and the sizing die. Some books say to back it off a hair from touching but this is where I have had a problem like yours. My own personal thing when resizing rifle brass is that I pull the handle slooooow. The other thing that you may want to check is your OAL, Over All Length.
I always had trouble reloading belted cartridges and having them tight in the chamber but never with the beltless. I believe that the WSM headspaces off the shoulder so you should be o.k. here.
Are they all difficult to chamber or just some of them? Were the brass shot in the same chamber or a different one?
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All brass was shot from this gun. Not all of them are hard just some. When i load Accubonds none of them will chamber but with Barns TTSX most of them will chamber.
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Re: Reloading help
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Completely paint the cartridge and bullet of a loaded accubond..
Push it in the chamber, then give it a bit more force with the bolt until its stopped.
Pull the cartridge out. Look for where the binding is by the marks in the removed ink.
That will tell you where the tightness is and give good idea where to start adjusting either the sizing die or the bullet seating die. If all the cases were fireformed in the same rife, (even though you full length resized), then the issue might just be that your bullets are seated out just a tad too long for your rifle's chamber. The shape of the accubond and the TTSX have a different ogive length/position.
Another thing you can do is use a kinetic bullet puller and pull one of the Accubonds. Pour out the powder and try to chamber the empty shell. If it will, then it's most likely your seating depth of the bullets in the case. If it won't, paint it with ink looking for the tight spot. This will tell you how much to adjust your sizing die.
Question... Why do beginning reloaders on this forum seem to start this wonderful hobby by using the absolute most expensive components for their cartridges. Norma Brass?
Accubonds and Barnes
Suggestion for others reading this... Learn to reload using range pickup Remington or 'whatever' brass, and Remington or other bulk packaged bullets from Cabella's. My local gun shop has Nosler 'seconds' in bulk for less than half the price of premium bullets.
Once you've learned how to reload safely and relatively accurately, then expand to premium components. Did you learn to ride a bike on a 12" frame with training wheels? Or did you just jump on an 18spd mountain bike and go for it?
I think I got flack for saying such in a post a long time ago, but I've been constructive in the initial response and I'm hoping that I'll at least touch the brain of at least one other person reading here.
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Plus, can you explain what you mean when you say your using both a lee press and a rcbs press?
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As far as brass he said once fired. New factory ammo. Like me, I had tons of brass that I saved over the years before I started re loading. Back to the subject. I loaded hornady bullets in my .243, I seated them just off the rifling and they where very hard the chamber. I had to keep setting the bullet deeper until they would chamber. I would say O.A.L. My nosler book says to use a sharpy and paint the bullet pinch the fired brass so it will hold the bullet then chamber it. If the bullet stays in the gun push it out with a cleaning rod, you will see where the bullet stopped at the rifling.
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H2O
What kind of rifle you shooting? If you have a semi auto or lever, or pump, you need small based dies to re-size your cartridge to proper dimensions.
You can bump the shoulder back not quite enough or just a bit to much and they will not chamber either. Take a set of calipers and measure all the shoulder dimensions and compare them to the specs. You should find the problem.
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Re: Reloading help
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First thing I'd do is try and chamber some of your full sized brass before you seat a bullet. If that chambers easily, then your having a problem with bullet seating if they chamber hard it's with the sizing.
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Re: Reloading help
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I said, COMPLETELY paint the cartridge with ink. Yes, that means the shoulder and neck. -those points that actually get resized in the die.
Try again. Just as others have alluded to, there's a sizing issue. Everyone is guessing either not setting the shoulder back enough or bullet seating depth. It's a no-brainer. One of the two issues.
Size a case. Try to chamber just the empty case. Let us know.
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Re: Reloading help
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You said that some bullets of one type work and another type will never chamber. After you check the other items the guys have mentioned, then try seating your bullets that don't chamber slightly deeper in the catridge and try chambering them again, see if that's the problem.
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