Thanks for the comments, Yes its a 30 30, but a mossberg. Walked about 8 or 9 miles today, and boy did it go from hot to cold, depending on how close I got to the snow line. I was using a hoochie mama to mask my noise, and actually had an elk come running down my way, but winded me, and took off like its rear was on fire. Didnt see it, but heard every bit of it.