Spine

[Hornseeker]

Shoot...sounds like you have it figured out just fine... Dont fix it if it aint broke....

Something people do a lot of, myself included (in the past) is spine too stiff. A weaker spine is a little more forgiving really..

[boneaddict]

Strings twisted, brace is increased, nock is lowered a bit.   Going to give the arms a break then try it some more.  I'm beginning to think that I could shoot either spine.  It will be curious when I plug some broadheads on.  First things first.  I'll get that nock where it should be. 

[boneaddict]

Something else to ask....when I finally go with these new arrows.  What do you guys think about fletchings.  I like to shoot feathers (not plastic)  3 4 or 5 inch   and do you shoot 3 or 4 of them. 

[Hornseeker]

Whatever you do...DONT put the broadhead on a bare shaft!

3 or 4 either way... dont matter. 4 will stabilize better, all else being equal, but if your arrows are tuned good to you and your bow, you only need a few 3"ers... otherwise...hell, use 4 @ 5" and that will stabilize anything!

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

Something else to ask....when I finally go with these new arrows.  What do you guys think about fletchings.  I like to shoot feathers (not plastic)  3 4 or 5 inch   and do you shoot 3 or 4 of them. 

I have 4 fletch on my "Sweetlands" (compressed cedar), with a 160 gr Grizzly, but they are 4, 4" and seem to make more noise (almost a buzz) than my 3, 5" helicals on regular cedar, but fly almost the same...
(70#@28", pulling 29.5"=74#+)
I got the arrows in trade, so I like them, but sometimes think about getting them re-fletched.....

[NWWABOWHNTR]

ALL I have ever shot are 3 5" left helicals,  have thought of going to 4" but these fly great. 

[carpsniperg2]

i shoot 4 fletch 2" on all my compound bows and 6 fletch with as much off set as my j8 will allow and i hand cut them with my chopper and they are right wing 3" parabolic feathers on my trad bows

[Hornseeker]

Holy Chit Carp... you ought to post a pic of one of them 6 fletch!!!

My trad arrows are done up with 3 straight fletch, 2.5" blazer cut feathers... fly like darts with field points or broadheads. However, my arrows are tuned such that my bare shafts hit with my feathers at 50 yards...

[boneaddict]

Whatever you do...DONT put the broadhead on a bare shaft!

You could have said that before I drained the pool.    (kidding)

[Hornseeker]

Hehehe....

So Doug, my hunting partner Barri drew an unreal elk tag... that buffer zone tag just north of where we hunted together.... VERY jealous!

[carpsniperg2]

wife has the good camera but here you go hornseeker. pics of my fletching my trad bow arrows and then all my arrows compound and trad. from wood,trad carbons"tapered", and reg carbons

[boneaddict]

NO WAY Ernie.   THats COOL!   I wanted to get into there just to photograph. I'd like to get into there about now to see the bachelor herds.   

[Hornseeker]

i'm sure it would be insane!!

[Recurve-Elk]

Just saw you figured it out. After I wrote that whole thing in italics, so if you want that info its at the bottom of this post.  

As far as fletchings go.  I started with 3, strait 4 inch feathers.  Didn't like them too much, so I went to 3, strait 5 inch parabolic feathers.  Seem to be great for me.  I have a jo jan mono fletching jig and it makes re fletching very easy.

Hey if you are still looking to get your weight up, I seriously recommend the weight tubes.  They don't mess with your spine nearly as much as heavy inserts and such do.





I was tuning my bow a few weeks ago and had the same problem.  Turned out I just had to move my nock point up about an 8th inch.  I think its sitting at just over a half inch above center.  With a good clean release the arrow shoots like a dart.  I had the same symptoms as you.  Arrows were ripping up and left when paper tuning.  

Now if that doesn't solve your problem, and you can't cut your arrows, and buying new shafts is not an option.  The options you are left with are:

1.  Lighter head+insert
2.  Longer fletchings.  (this should be your last resort as this doesn't solve the issue, just hides it.)

To give you an Idea however, I am shooting full length 5575's with 125g tips, and 5 inch feathers out of my 57lb recurve and they shoot almost perfect with a clean release.  So to me sounds like your spine is too weak???  

[boneaddict]

I am thinking about going to 3 5 inch fletch on a set of 7595s with weight inserts to boost my arrow weight.  THEN shoot like hell to see if I can dial back in before the big season.  Since I shoot 55s out of my other bow, I might duplicate the set up with them (spend another 100 smackers on the plastic) and then have a backup plan.