Deer rifle recomendation

[carpsniperg2]

great picture

[Thenewguy]

7mm-08 - AMAZINGLY accurate rifle. Low recoil with good factory ammo availability. That being said you can load some pretty hot rounds for it as well.

[high country]

Have you considered just getting one of those fancy new recoil pads for your 308?

I finally put one on my 7mm mag, and it makes an incredible difference.   It took it from pretty darn stout to really really pleasant.

Maybe one would do the same for your kids 308 and then you don't need to buy another rifle ..... unless you want to.

Wish I could remember the brand name of the one I put on a few months ago, but it sure makes a difference to my shoulder.... and my shooting.

those area good option.....but you need to have a GOOD scope with GOOD eyerelief. kids tend to be creepers on the scope, a squishy pad and a low eye relief scope will make for a bad deal

[GoldTip]

Have you considered just getting one of those fancy new recoil pads for your 308?

I finally put one on my 7mm mag, and it makes an incredible difference.   It took it from pretty darn stout to really really pleasant.

Maybe one would do the same for your kids 308 and then you don't need to buy another rifle ..... unless you want to.

Wish I could remember the brand name of the one I put on a few months ago, but it sure makes a difference to my shoulder.... and my shooting.

those area good option.....but you need to have a GOOD scope with GOOD eyerelief. kids tend to be creepers on the scope, a squishy pad and a low eye relief scope will make for a bad deal

true enough, but it's a lesson you only need to learn once!

[addicted]

the 6.5mm was the round of choice for moose hunting in europe for a long time.

also the legal minimum.

another poke for a good recoil pad,

a poke for a 7mm08 (i never suggest against buying another gone at a responisble oppourtunity) 

miles is in love with his 6.5 and he's got pictures to go with it. not a bad choice though. i'll get one some day. its on the list, with 2 of everything else that goes bang
i dont see many economy price ranged guns in 6.5 though. tikka's are 500. i dont think you can get a stevens in 6.5.  ammo isnt as readily available as it used to be..... so miles tells me lol

[DoubleJ]

You can give it to me.  I'd be happy to shoot it for you

[Skinnyman]

270 with a good recoil pad and a removable muzzle break. Louder due to the break, has a lot more punch than a 243, but to the shooter it should feel close to a 243.

[Pathfinder101]

Thanks for the input Earshot and Carpsniperg2.  That is a great picture as well!

[C-Money]

One morning my aunt took my uncles .270 out of camp after elk as she said the scope kept fogging up on her 243 the day before. So, My uncle took the .243 and killed a 7x7 Bull with one shot. My Aunt got a 5x5 later that day with the 270.

[br8kitoff]

Winchester's Supreme 95 grain Ballistic Silvertip big game bullet is factory loaded to a MV of 3,100 fps with 2,021 ft. lbs. of muzzle energy (ME). If that load is zeroed to strike 2.5 inches high at 100 yards the bullet will then strike 3 inches high at 150 yards, 2.3 inches high at 200 yards, and 3 inches low at 300 yards. At 200 yards that bullet hits with 1,455 ft. lbs. of energy, and at 300 yards it still retains 1,225 ft. lbs. of energy. With this load so zeroed the .243 Winchester is about a 300 yard deer and antelope cartridge.

the pic is my then 9y/o with his first deer shooting a 243

Below is side by side comparison 

 SBST243A SBST270
SYMBOL OVERVIEW
Cartridge 243 Winchester 270 Winchester
Bullet Wt. Grs. 95 130
Bullet Type Ballistic Silvertip® Ballistic Silvertip®
Barrel Length (in)   
Use   
VELOCITY IN FEET PER SECOND (fps)
Muzzle 3100 3050
100 2854 2828
200 2626 2618
300 2410 2416
400 2203 2224
500 2007 2040
ENERGY IN FOOT POUNDS (ft-lbs.)
Engmuz 2021 2685
100 1719 2309
200 1455 1978
300 1225 1685
400 1024 1428
500 850 1202
TRAJECTORY (in.)
50 -0.3 -0.2
100 0 0
200 -2.8 -2.8
300 -10.6 -10.8
400 -24.4 -24.7
TRAJECTORY LONG (in.)
100 1.4 1.4
200 0 0
300 -6.4 -6.5
400 -18.9 -18.9
500 -38.4 -38.4

[br8kitoff]

Oh yea ....a gun recommendation!

Rossi....single shot and it comes in 243, 25-06 and also comes with a shot gun barrel i think 410 or 20G for under 350, i think

[DoubleJ]

Someone has to explain the zero it to hit high thing.  If I zero a scope to hit dead on bullseye at 100 yards, depending on ballistics, I can determine how many up or down clicks I need to make on my MOA adjustment.  I thought that's what these were on the scope for.

[SCRUBS]

I do think that the 243 would do just fine if it hit a rib I'm not sure that it didn't., I reload and she was shooting premium bullets. As a proud  dad I have to post a picture.

That is a great pic, thanks for sharing it.

[br8kitoff]

zero to hit high is when you have a standard scope with no adjustment knob.  so you zero your scope say to 250, then you have to remember that you are xxx high at 100, xxx high at 200 xxx low at 300 and so on.

[DoubleJ]

zero to hit high is when you have a standard scope with no adjustment knob.  so you zero your scope say to 250, then you have to remember that you are xxx high at 100, xxx high at 200 xxx low at 300 and so on.

So, since I have the finger knobs on my scope and know that, if zeroed dead on at 100 yards and I have a 200 yard shot, I'll need to come up 5 clicks, I don't need to use the so many inches high thing, right?