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Re: Truck and pulling a trailer question
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2010, 11:20:47 PM »
I didn't recall the boosted pressures that Jackalope referenced, but no body answered my question about the Dodge transmission in tow/haul mode.

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damn man.. Don't hold back a bit! That's not nice. Automatics do have their place.. (not in my truck)  Although, my half brother has put two auto transmissions behind his Cummins now. All of the big three have issues with the auto transmissions behind diesels. Jackalope said something about this being a gas engine/auto transn though.. So be it.

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Re: Truck and pulling a trailer question
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2010, 07:29:54 AM »
I didn't recall the boosted pressures that Jackalope referenced, but no body answered my question about the Dodge transmission in tow/haul mode.

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No overdrive and no TCC lockup plus the boosted line pressure/late shift.
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Re: Truck and pulling a trailer question
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2010, 07:43:18 AM »
Allison's have issues?  :dunno: like what?
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Re: Truck and pulling a trailer question
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2010, 08:36:38 AM »
Not wanting to jack this thread....

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Allison's have issues?
Yup, just as many issues as the Ford TorqeShift.  As I said, 'All of the big three' have automatic transmission issues. Especially when behind the high torque engines.

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=41

Heard some horror stories about the Allisons in military Hummers too.

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Re: Truck and pulling a trailer question
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2010, 09:05:58 AM »
Not wanting to jack this thread....

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Allison's have issues?
Yup, just as many issues as the Ford TorqeShift.  As I said, 'All of the big three' have automatic transmission issues. Especially when behind the high torque engines.

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=41

Heard some horror stories about the Allisons in military Hummers too.

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Military H1's I didn't think had the Allison transmissions in them. The only H1 to have an Allison that I'm aware of is the Alpha 1 H1 which also has the Duramax engine. I could be totally wrong there as it's been +/- 6 years since I worked at the Chev/Hummer dealer. The Alpha 1 was selling for $130k new back then  :o

We truly see very few transmission issues in the Dodge truck transmissions. The problems that we do see are mostly electronics and not hard parts. The hard part issues we see are usually fixed by replacing the governor pressure sensor and the transducer. We do a lot of these after Aamco has rebuilt the transmission and not fixed the problem.
Same problem is pretty common in the WJ Grand Cherokees.
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Re: Truck and pulling a trailer question
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2010, 09:22:13 AM »
I would have to agree, that the Dodges, from what I've heard have probably the fewest auto trans issues. I do know more than one person that has had hard part issues with autos behind Cummins though. A few years ago I monitored a lot of truck forums. I'm sure things have improved with all of them. Got to hope so, as the Ford TorqShift really had issues early on whether behind a V10 or Diesel. I don't claim to know much at all about what the Allisons came in. I just remember several discussions about them failing behind Dura-Izusu's.  I did my research and specifically looked for a truck with the ZF6. Something about using a transmission thats rated for much more torque/payload than what its installed in says something to me. (Allison has a very high rating also) Both GM and Ford use the ZF6. You can even put one behind a Dodge/Cummins. I'm quite happy with my ZF6 but will most likely put the F450 clutch kit or something from South Bend in when I need to replace what's there.

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Re: Truck and pulling a trailer question
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2010, 09:59:28 AM »
I just spoke to a buddy who is a 7 year Chev dealership guy. They've replaced 2 Allison's in the time he's been there.
1 had a casting plug left in it from the factory...blocked fluid flow and burned the trans up 1k miles.

The other was a mis-diagnosis and according to Allison should not have been replaced.

The policy to date is to not "repair" Allison transmissions...The dealers have always had to replace them without taking them apart. In the 3 years I worked for Chev where we had the HD trucks with the Allison transmissions, I only handled 1 replacement personally.

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Re: Truck and pulling a trailer question
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2010, 10:18:26 AM »
With all due respect to the other manufacturers, and each one of them has their own high and low points. as some of you may know, i have spent a day or three in the auto service biz, i base my decisions on what vehicle i would buy on how much money i make off each type of rig and in the world of hd trucks, i dont make much money on the duramax/allison combination, so...i have one and it does everything i need it to do without question.  :twocents:
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Re: Truck and pulling a trailer question
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2010, 10:19:21 AM »
With all due respect to the other manufacturers, and each one of them has their own high and low points. as some of you may know, i have spent a day or three in the auto service biz, i base my decisions on what vehicle i would buy on how much money i make off each type of rig and in the world of hd trucks, i dont make much money on the duramac/allison combination, so...i have one and it does everything i need it to do without question.  :twocents:

Thats about all I can base my opinions on too.
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Re: Truck and pulling a trailer question
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2010, 07:02:58 AM »
I HATE AUTO'S! An automatic tranny is a 3-5k wear item.... The clutch in my stick is a 3-500 wear item... I can smoke a lot of clutches for the price difference.... And SHHHH don't tell anyone.... YOU CAN SHIFT A STICK W/O USING THE CLUTCH!   Ahhh I feel better now...
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