Help with z7

[huntnfmly]

thanks guys.I have 3 feathers they are 4in long and 1/2in high.there is not much offset.I knocked an arrow then pushed it up to the berger hole and its about a 1/2in above the botton brush.defitnetly not right

[Lowedog]

thanks guys.I have 3 feathers they are 4in long and 1/2in high.there is not much offset.I knocked an arrow then pushed it up to the berger hole and its about a 1/2in above the botton brush.defitnetly not right

Sounds like your rest is way low and my guess you are getting contact on the shelf of the bow.  Like said before.  Move your rest up so that when the arrow is 90 deg from the string it is through the center of the berger hole and reset your nock point.

[huntnfmly]

this will probably sound stupid but to change knock point i move the d loop?it looks pretty tight should i be able to slide it?It has 2 knots inside loop.larry did a good job also right now it paper tunes good. when it is level we get that bad tear thats what does not make sense

[Lowedog]

strange it will paper tune nock high.  Is it shooting a perfect bullet hole that way?  Are you using a brass nock in addition to your loop or just the loop?  You can spin the loop on the serving to get it to move, just go the direction that will make it travel up the string. 

If you could post a pic or 2 of your set up that would help.  A close up of the loop/nock set and then one with an arrow nocked. 

[huntnfmly]

yes it does shoot good holes and when we set it level we got the bad tear.I will post some pics when i get new batteries for camera i just tried and they are dead.I have 2 knots inside the d loops knots

[Button Nubbs]

Something just hit me. How does it shoot broadheads? Are you worried because it "looks" like your arrow is sitting at a funny angle or are your arrows flying all over the place? On my set-up it looks like my tip is sitting high yet I'm slingin bare shafts out to 4O yards with my fletched ones and have the same poi with broadheads and field points out to long ranges. I wouldn't worry how it "looks" as much as how it performs. Shoot some broadheads, do a broadhead tune and if that dosent do it I don't know what to tell you.

[Lowedog]

I see.  I use a similar set up it sounds like.  Check this thread http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,50872.15.html there is a great write up in there from xXxArchery on tying in a loop and nock set.  With that set up you can spin the nock set/loop up or down the serving for tuning.  There are pics with his write up.

[huntnfmly]

Thats exactly how its tied.I have not tried broadheads yet because if the arrows are to stiff i want to go to 125grn to help with that.Also if the set up is how it needs to be i will have to get lower profile heads so they wont hit the shelf

[Button Nubbs]

I don't think they should be so close to the shelf that you should have to sacrifice cutting diameter. It sound to me like you should raise the nock point and raise the rest.

[carpsniperg2]

sounds like you ar getting a step in the right direction.

mikexray i have the trophy taker full containment and out of the many many rest i have shot i love it! best rest i have ever shot in my life. i use it on my hunting bow. but i still love the biscuits as well and have my brother and wife shooting them as well. nothing wrong with them at all. but don't get the fiber wet without no snow on it or good luck shooting them with clumpy fibers

[Lowedog]

Thats exactly how its tied.I have not tried broadheads yet because if the arrows are to stiff i want to go to 125grn to help with that.Also if the set up is how it needs to be i will have to get lower profile heads so they wont hit the shelf

That isn't how it needs to be.  The arrow should be at the same level as the berger hole.  That is how the manufacturers design the bows. Some bows tune better a little nock high but usually only 1/16th to 1/8th of an inch and that still will have the arrow running through the center of the berger hole.  An arrow spine too weak or stiff can show a left or right tear. 

[huntnfmly]

Thats what i will do.I will raise the rest thet makes the arrow even with the berger hole wich is were the knock point is now and square to the string  I didnt think thats how it needed to be i was thinking it was wrong but it just didnt make any sense that when everything was level and square we got that bad tearthat looked like this \

[Lowedog]

Let us know how it works out for you. 

[huntnfmly]

I will.Does anyone know anyplace i should take it?The place i got it says the arrow is to stiff and wants to sell me a new rest I think i will take it back up to larry and his guys

[flinger]

I will.Does anyone know anyplace i should take it?The place i got it says the arrow is to stiff and wants to sell me a new rest I think i will take it back up to larry and his guys