How do I buy a gun online?

[carpsniperg2]

that is correct, but i think he was talking handgun probably. long guns don't need to be done threw a ffl in oregon to come to wa

[h2ofowlr]

He will have to fill out the FFL on both if it is being shipped from a dealer.  Typically long guns you fill out the FFL at the gun shop then leave with it.  A pistol you fill out the FFL at the gun shop then pay a transfer fee and paperwork.  It then has to be transfered to a licensed individual in the state of Washington with a FFL to pick it up.  Private party doesn't require anything unless your feeling uneasy about it.

[jackelope]

I recently ordered a new gun from a dealer in Oregon and fully expect to be paying WA state sales tax to my FFL holder upon completing the transfer...

http://dor.wa.gov/content/getaformorpublication/publicationbysubject/taxtopics/firearmtransfers.aspx

Long guns bought in Oregon dont need an FFL transfer, only handguns.  I believe this is true for Idaho purchases also.  I live on the river and have bought several from Oregon.

that is correct, but i think he was talking handgun probably. long guns don't need to be done threw a ffl in oregon to come to wa

If the gun is crossing state lines, as in an internet transaction...it must be transferred through an FFL, pistol or long gun. It's a Federal Firearms License issue, a Federal issue, it doesn't matter what state you're in.

[87Ford]

If the gun is crossing state lines, as in an internet transaction...it must be transferred through an FFL, pistol or long gun. It's a Federal Firearms License issue, a Federal issue, it doesn't matter what state you're in.

This is true and I confirmed it today with the dealer in Oregon.  By the way, it's a shotgun that I have on order.

Now, whether or not the FFL holder I use collects sales tax at the time of transfer is another matter.  I believe they are supposed to, but not sure they are all complying.  This was posted by a member on Shotgun World...

I am an FFL holder in Washington State.
As a corporation, and as an FFL, we are not legally liable to collect sales tax on any item my company has not itself sold to the public. The State's policy on this matter is in fact illegal and unenforceable.
My goal is to gather as many independent Washington FFL holders together and file against the State whenever they commence in attempting to enforce such an unlawful requirement.
To those FFL holders who have fallen to bended knee to the State, and have commenced to collect sales tax on items you yourself have not sold, I say you are going to make our fight even more difficult.
Please do not bend to the unlawful pressure.
As a group we will win, if and when we have to fight.

[carpsniperg2]

I recently ordered a new gun from a dealer in Oregon and fully expect to be paying WA state sales tax to my FFL holder upon completing the transfer...

http://dor.wa.gov/content/getaformorpublication/publicationbysubject/taxtopics/firearmtransfers.aspx

Long guns bought in Oregon dont need an FFL transfer, only handguns.  I believe this is true for Idaho purchases also.  I live on the river and have bought several from Oregon.

that is correct, but i think he was talking handgun probably. long guns don't need to be done threw a ffl in oregon to come to wa

If the gun is crossing state lines, as in an internet transaction...it must be transferred through an FFL, pistol or long gun. It's a Federal Firearms License issue, a Federal issue, it doesn't matter what state you're in.

but if the gun was ordered into a store and he picked it up and it is a long gun then there is no problem. its only on online stuff not instore pickups. "I recently ordered a new gun from a dealer in Oregon" it did not say he bought it threw the "internet transaction"

[carpsniperg2]

"Long guns bought in Oregon dont need an FFL transfer, only handguns. I live on the river and have bought several from Oregon.

this is what i said was correct. and i know for a fact that it is right. if you buy the gun from a dealer and it is a longgun then there is no transfer needed for you to bring it into washington. a hangun yes but long gun no! internet is a diffrent cookie rules are different.

"If the gun is crossing state lines, as in an internet transaction...it must be transferred through an FFL, pistol or long gun. It's a Federal Firearms License issue, a Federal issue, it doesn't matter what state you're in."

yes that is correct as well if it is a internet transaction then yes instore dealer pickup no ffl transfer needed. i have bought about 15 "long guns" from oregon and they do not need a tranfer to come into washington. i have also bought about 5 off the net threw gunbroker and guns america. and i know that to be the case with internet transactions.

[87Ford]

i have also bought about 5 off the net threw gunbroker and guns america. and i know that to be the case with internet transactions.

Did you have to pay WA state sales tax on your "gunbroker" and "GunsAmerica" purchases when you completed the transfer with your FFL holder?

[cwuwildcat]

i have also bought about 5 off the net threw gunbroker and guns america. and i know that to be the case with internet transactions.

Did you have to pay WA state sales tax on your "gunbroker" and "GunsAmerica" purchases when you completed the transfer with your FFL holder?

Yes.  This is something new that they are starting to enforce.

[jackelope]

"Long guns bought in Oregon dont need an FFL transfer, only handguns. I live on the river and have bought several from Oregon.

this is what i said was correct. and i know for a fact that it is right. if you buy the gun from a dealer and it is a longgun then there is no transfer needed for you to bring it into washington. a hangun yes but long gun no! internet is a diffrent cookie rules are different.

"If the gun is crossing state lines, as in an internet transaction...it must be transferred through an FFL, pistol or long gun. It's a Federal Firearms License issue, a Federal issue, it doesn't matter what state you're in."

yes that is correct as well if it is a internet transaction then yes instore dealer pickup no ffl transfer needed. i have bought about 15 "long guns" from oregon and they do not need a tranfer to come into washington. i have also bought about 5 off the net threw gunbroker and guns america. and i know that to be the case with internet transactions.

That may be the case if you are buying the gun in Oregon, putting it in your truck, then driving back to Washington. If you live in a state and buy a gun from another state and have it sent to you here in your home state, it requires a FFL transfer if  it is a long gun or a hand gun.

[carpsniperg2]

i have also bought about 5 off the net threw gunbroker and guns america. and i know that to be the case with internet transactions.

Did you have to pay WA state sales tax on your "gunbroker" and "GunsAmerica" purchases when you completed the transfer with your FFL holder?

no i have not because of the state they were bought in. paid sales tax on the transfer fee charged but not the gun itself.

[carpsniperg2]

and yes jackelope that is 100% the case. no ffl needed to bring long guns back to wa from or
"That may be the case if you are buying the gun in Oregon, putting it in your truck, then driving back to Washington."

and yes that is correct as well.
"If you live in a state and buy a gun from another state and have it sent to you here in your home state, it requires a FFL transfer if  it is a long gun or a hand gun."

[sticky]

One other thing to consider is that some gun dealers will not transfer a firearm that they commonly stock in their store.  Many are starting to feel the effect out of state competition is having on their business.  I use a local gunsmith, many have an FFL even if they don't sell guns retail.  He charges me $25 and I bring him a bottle for the trouble.

[87Ford]

Has he started collecting "use tax" from you on interstate transfers?

http://dor.wa.gov/content/getaformorpublication/publicationbysubject/taxtopics/firearmtransfers.aspx