campfires

[inmysights]

Went scouting this past weekend. Lots of folks with campfires around the rimrock lake and manastash ridge with fairly large camp fires. It was drier than a popcorn fart over there, had me concerned a little. When we left on sunday we saw the hot shot crews flying in their gear to fight fire somewhere on american ridge. Hope a few careless folks dont ruin our trip this year.

[gasman]

If you seee folks with camp fires, note the location and any other information you can get and report it to the FS.

There is a burn ban, pretty much on the whole east side of the cascades.

I do know that the Naches Ranger district has one for sure..............


Herd rumors of a few fires up Little Nachese and bumping but like i said, just rumors 

[flinger]

A burn ban is in effect July 15, 2010 through September 30, 2010 on all forest lands under Department of Natural Resources jurisdiction.All outdoor burning is banned with the exception of recreational fires in approved fire pits within designated state, county, municipal or other campgrounds.The use of gas and propane barbeques and self contained stoves are allowed.
Remarks:
this is prettymuch statewide

[flinger]

here is a good source if you are heading out and don't know fire restrictions
regardless make sure it is DEAD OUT before you leave

http://fortress.wa.gov/dnr/firedanger/BurnRisk.aspx

[bigtex]

A burn ban is in effect July 15, 2010 through September 30, 2010 on all forest lands under Department of Natural Resources jurisdiction.All outdoor burning is banned with the exception of recreational fires in approved fire pits within designated state, county, municipal or other campgrounds.The use of gas and propane barbeques and self contained stoves are allowed.
Remarks:
this is prettymuch statewide

DNR fire bans due not affect federal lands such as those owned by the US Forest Service or BLM. BLM and USFS issue their own fire bans since they have their own fire personnel.

[flinger]

yes but they make it alot harder to find the information
just saying that this is a good referance

[JackOfAllTrades]

Its sort of a commen sense thing.. If when driving down the highway, then to rural tranquility, you see the FS, or Local Fire Station, with Burn Ban On sign at the side of the road, or Parks office with the Smokey the Bear outside with the fire danger sign in his hands.. That says- Extremely high or high,  DON'T BURN!!!

Simple thinkin! It's dryer than a popcorn fart out there!   But some people just don't get it.  

-Steve

[bigtex]

yes but they make it alot harder to find the information
just saying that this is a good referance

Both BLM and individual USFS Forests have their fire information on their main webpage..just like DNR does
Don't really see that as being difficult 

[brianb231]

Yes, some people are just ignorant....

We were camped at Rimrock lake this past weekend going to the clemens Mt Archery shoot up there. We were camped at the end of the grass airstrip. There was a No campfires of any kind "new" sign at the entrance about 100ft from campers that were having campfires! The Fire Fighters were actually parked next to them loading gear to fight the fire into helicopters. I could not believe how some people think the rules are not for them!!!

[bigtex]

The problem with natural resource agencies in this state (USFS, BLM, WDFW, DNR) is that their enforcement personnel are spread so thin that people know their likelihood of getting caught is low. I don't think it's a lack of knowledge of a burn ban because it seems like the "No Fire" signs are all over the place this time of the year, but rather people just not caring about the potential risk of having a fire. USFS only has one law enforcement officer per ranger district in WA. So down in the Naches area you have one law enforcement officer to cover all the USFS lands off of SR 410 and SR 12 as well as all of those campgrounds. BLM only has two officers for all of eastern washington. I read somewhere that nationally USFS has lost half of their law enforcement due to budget cuts, a joke is that they won't see that much of an increase until they can tie forest lands to terrorism. So if you think the chances of seeing a WDFW Officer is low, just think about the odds of seeing a BLM or USFS Officer....

[flinger]

wow wasn't tryin to be the bad guy or anybody's punchin bag just tryin to share some info that i thought might be helpful to someone
Pretty obvious if there are posted signs then it means no
when there are no bans i'm the *censored* that leaves the firepit totally full of water at least that is wat the next guy that uses the pit probably thinks
 anyway thats all
you can kill me but ya won't eat me this ones all yours

[Galpster]

Me and my son went out last year without checking the fire ban. Got to the sight and signs everywhere - no fires or charcoal - needless to say we stayed without a campfire. The people about 3 sites down were kind enough to give us a hot dinner one night when they say us eating cold hot dogs. LOl - they had a trailer with propane.

[inmysights]

I was up fishing and saw the boulder creek fire up from bumping lake and I also got to see the smoke jumpers on the wildcat fire. So when people have fires out there in the woods they should not have a fire because when there fire gets out of hand it will burn forever. FYI if anyone wants to have a fire in the naches ranger district (notincluding the wilderness), there is people giving out tickets left and right out there. I saw a couple campers up the ravens roost road and reported the campfire to the forest service on Saturday.

Dont mean to step on anyones toes but, when you come across a campfire on the dry side this time of year and all of the folks are passed out in lawn chairs with beer cans strung out everywhere it is dissapointing. I dont mind tying one on myself, I just think they should be more respectful of the rules This was at about 6am around the same area.

[gasman]

I have a Citranila candle in my camper to resemple a camp fire during a burn ban 

[dreamingbig]

To the best of my knowledge they can not issue a burn ban for the wilderness areas (William O'Douglass in this case).  In my opinion it is still best to avoid them this time of year but if the fire is within the wilderness boundary then there is nothing they can do.

[follow maggie]

people are stupid.  What do you need a fire for in August, anyway?

[Dslayer]

There have been bans on fires in the WODWA in the past.   Seem to remember one in '07 on a Chinook to White trip in August but there's none on 5 minutes ago when I checked their site.  I like to use a fire to cook-plan on cooking fish the next three nights. 

[WSU]

I just got back from the goat rocks wilderness, and it isn't very dry up there at all for August.  I called the forest service last week prior to going up there, and they said fires are allowed.  There is a reason that there have been not many fires this year, and it ain't because it is drier than a popcorn fart.  Not saying fire danger isn't there, but it is a slow fire season thus far.

[inmysights]

I just got back from the goat rocks wilderness, and it isn't very dry up there at all for August.  I called the forest service last week prior to going up there, and they said fires are allowed.  There is a reason that there have been not many fires this year, and it ain't because it is drier than a popcorn fart.  Not saying fire danger isn't there, but it is a slow fire season thus far.

I did not coment on there being a burn ban or not. Just saying that a fire you have to be 20' away from because it will singe your brows is overkill, and a HUGE fire risk in that area. It is the 10% rule - 10% of the folks will screw it up for the other 90%.

[flashover52]

For the past month, it always struck me odd that folks in established state/federal campgrounds would start a fire at 10 AM and then keep feeding it logs all day. A couple of the sites, folks would load it up, then go get in their boat for a while and come back in a couple of hours, toss some more logs on it and then leave again. It made no sense......   Not only was nobody around the fire, but it was over 80+ degrees. Sort of like people wearing winter hats when it's over 75 degrees..... 

I wanted to go dump a bucket of water in their pit but my wife wouldn't let me......   Just be safe.

[gasman]

I love a camp fire when i am camping, it is so relaxing.

I to will have a camp fire at night, even when iti s 80* out side, it's part of the persana of camping. Now i do not have a fire durring the day when its hot out but as evening rolls around, its time to lite teh fire regaurdless of the temp, bu ti do obsrve burn bans.

I like a fire so much, that durring early archery season when there is a burn ban inplace, i put a citranilla candle in the fire pit to resemble a fire (and keep teh bugs at bay). Its the atmosfier of being at camp.

[flashover52]

Don't get me wrong.....gotta have some smores with the kids before bed.....and I could see a small fire during the day if someone is there cooking lunch but the folks I saw, literally, just got the fire ripping and then left.   

[inmysights]

Don't get me wrong.....gotta have some smores with the kids before bed.....and I could see a small fire during the day if someone is there cooking lunch but the folks I saw, literally, just got the fire ripping and then left.