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Which AR for coyotes?
« on: September 06, 2010, 05:23:00 PM »
My dad and I are getting close to buying a rifle for coyotes. We want an AR, which one? DPMS? Bushmaster? Remington? RRA? What does everyone like?

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Re: Which AR for coyotes?
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2010, 05:41:02 PM »
Get or build a target type, the carbines give up too much velocity and range. I bought a 24" DPMS fluted stainless bull barreled upper to go with the lower that I put together with a Rock River Arms 2 stage NM trigger, avoid standard AR triggers. Most match type triggers will be worlds ahead of any standard fire control group, the RRA NM trigger that I used is one of the most common and economical. I figure the rifle with burris mounts for the bushnell banner scope and cheapo hard case with 3 magazines cost me about $1150 to put together and truthfully I wasted a bit here and there. I bought my upper through R'guns, their customer service isn't great but they had the best price on what I wanted and shipped promptly. The lower is simple to build if you have concerns and there is a ton of online help available including youtube videos.
The reason there are so many Ruger upgrades is because they're necessary.

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Re: Which AR for coyotes?
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2010, 06:02:21 PM »
I like my SR-556 Ruger , they come with a decent soft case, 3 magpul magazines w/dust covers, Troy rails, Troy iron sights, adjustable gas block and it's piston actuated so it runs fairly clean. For $1500.00 you get a nice package imo. They even make em in 6.8 spc now.

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Re: Which AR for coyotes?
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2010, 07:42:19 PM »
I got my S&W MP15 with 5 Magpul Mags all brand spanking new for $830 from Code4 in Bothell - helluva price and leaves plenty of room for customizing if that's your thing. I just left it the way it came and I think its awesome. 16" barrel with removable carry handle, I put a Nikon Coyote Special scope on it and it has deaded a few dogs with no troubles. I love it.
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Re: Which AR for coyotes?
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2010, 09:37:26 PM »
Were looking for a rifle with a 1 in 9 twist because we want to shoot 55 grain bullets.  The r15 has the 1 in 9 twist but we don't like the Max 1 camo and the bushmaster is a 1 in 8 twist, not what were looking for.

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I got my S&W MP15 with 5 Magpul Mags all brand spanking new for $830 from Code4 in Bothell

Whats the twist rate on the Smith and Wesson?

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Re: Which AR for coyotes?
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2010, 09:52:16 PM »
just to give you a little info. bushmaster-remington-dpms are all owned by the same company. they are all great guns i like bushmaster the best for the ar-15. i like my r-25 a ton and i would probably by the r-15 next since i have 2 bushmasters. i really like my special varmit ar-15 by bushmaster but its on the higer $ side of the range. But a sweet gun for yote hunting thats for sure.
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Re: Which AR for coyotes?
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2010, 10:12:43 PM »
Were looking for a rifle with a 1 in 9 twist because we want to shoot 55 grain bullets.  The r15 has the 1 in 9 twist but we don't like the Max 1 camo and the bushmaster is a 1 in 8 twist, not what were looking for.

I can tell you that my 1 in 9 rifle prefers 62gr to 55, I would try and get a 1 in 12 if you want to use lighter bullets.
The reason there are so many Ruger upgrades is because they're necessary.

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Re: Which AR for coyotes?
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2010, 10:15:59 PM »
that is very correct! from what i have seen as well fc, mine like 52g ser hpbt the best but shoot some 55-60grainer's good
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Re: Which AR for coyotes?
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2010, 04:04:12 AM »
rock river has apretty good sale on their predator series rifles right now.  i just bouth their lar15 tactical operator2 and it is a SWEET rifle.  I'm sure the hunting series is every bit as good..... :twocents:
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Re: Which AR for coyotes?
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2010, 05:34:38 AM »
Pic one and go with it. I've got a Bushy Varminter and it shoots lights out but there are many to choose from. Maybe check out the Remmy R15. It's actually made by bushy but it's all camo'd out.

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Re: Which AR for coyotes?
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2010, 07:03:39 AM »
Mil-spec AR's are all relatively the same, it comes down to how you want them set up for the type of hunting you are doing.  Barrel length is usually the determining factor, some people prefer the longer barrel for velocity & accuracy while others like the shorter barrels for lighter easier to carry.  Don't get consumed by the Idea that you need A match Grade Bull Barrel.  This is a common mistake buy first time buyers that think that that it will make all the difference in the world...  When in fact for the normal Recreational shooter who may go out & plink on the weekends or who hunts with it 6 months of the year, it really isn't worth that cost of the weight for The accuracy.  I have had a Armalite  20 Standard contor that shot as good if not better than a 24'' DPMS Super Bull barrel.
In the end with whatever you buy you will find that you will addapt to the advantages & the disadvantage, or you will end up with several.  Spend some time looking at several different brands & types so you get a good Idea of whats out there & then start looking at prices.  The one thing on any Ar that you should always test drive before you buy it is the Trigger.  Some factory triggers are just fabulous like Sundevils Other are just terrible like bushmaster.  These are all things that can be changed fairly easy, but I would factor that in to the selection of the rifle from the start. 

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Re: Which AR for coyotes?
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2010, 10:05:06 AM »
Were looking for a rifle with a 1 in 9 twist because we want to shoot 55 grain bullets.  The r15 has the 1 in 9 twist but we don't like the Max 1 camo and the bushmaster is a 1 in 8 twist, not what were looking for.

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I got my S&W MP15 with 5 Magpul Mags all brand spanking new for $830 from Code4 in Bothell


Whats the twist rate on the Smith and Wesson?

Mine is 1 in 9

And I try to call them inside of 40yds so accuracy & distance isnt an issue!  :chuckle:
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Re: Which AR for coyotes?
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2010, 10:17:25 AM »
Love my Oly personally.

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Re: Which AR for coyotes?
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2010, 10:33:19 AM »
Shorter barrel as in 16, 18, 0r 20 are not going to loose much velocity at all. The 16 will be noticeably louder than the 20.
Shorter barrel swings easier. I felt the 1/9 was more finicky than the 1/8 which shot even light bullets very well.
Weight becomes an issue quickly. Some guys get the long bull barrel and accessorize to the point of a 12# gun.
Then the chrome lined vs stainless debates, who knows. I like the stainless barrel.

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Re: Which AR for coyotes?
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2010, 11:07:55 AM »
I have the Rock River Coyote 16" with a nikon coyote special scope on it.  It cuts its own holes at 100 yards and my first coyote with it was at 360 yards.  I dont know what you want for accuracy but that is good enough for me.

 


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