Elk callers please help

[garyltbh]

I have 2 bulls in a swomp that is a little bowl.The bulls will bugle there heads off when i bugle at them or when i cow call but then after mabey 10 min they will shut up and then nothing.If i go back later they will do the same thing. one has gotten within 75 yrds thrashing and going crazy and just when i think this is going to work he shuts up and its over.There is 5 spikes in the area that ive seen and ive heard some cows i just havent saw them. what am i doing wrong this is my first yr calling elk please help. thankyou

[buckhorn2]

If they have cows with them you might have to get in closer to them before they will  come in. Try to call and locate them then sneak in as close as you can then call. They don;t like to leave the cows to go fight because they already have cows but if you get close in they will try and protect them.

[garyltbh]

I dont think they have cows with them yet, The bigger sounding bull thrashes and runs to the left and right and makes a ruckus but he just stops and wont come in.

[boneaddict]

You aren't doing anything wrong.....Thats elk hunting.  Gonna have to push them.  Go in silent and when you get about as close as you can, let one rip.  He'll be on you in a second.  If you bugle going in or call going in, he'll probably gather his cows and pull out.

[boneaddict]

watch the wind......you've got one shot.

[garyltbh]

thankyou ill try that this afternoon

[garyltbh]

do you think i should try it with 2 people like i said im new to calling

[garyltbh]

ok guys thanks im heading out now ill look at the responces after i get home from the woods thanks.

[BLUEBULLS]

you may have educated them already. give it a week they'll get hotter.

[Little Fish]

I started a thread a couple weeks ago asking what calling routines Westside hunters used. Some good ideas in that thread. Also the thread below has some good ideas as well. Good luck getting one.

http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?p=3285148#post3285148

[boneaddict]

I hunt solo gary.  Any hints I give, keep that in mind.  I assumed you were too.

[PA BEN]

I had a bull we would work every morning for 3 days in the bumping. He would be fired up and come in, then leave. The forth morning I worked him and he came in running. Big 6x6, 10 yds away but in the brush no shot.

[MtnMuley]

Hunt the bulls ALONE.  Less noise, smell, and other red flags to the elk.  I agree with bone.  You have one shot at it.  Have all your ducks lined up.  If your plan fails, cow call til no end when they bust out.  Hopefully he will think he left one behind.  Good luck.

[boneaddict]

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[garyltbh]

thanks for all the advise bone