Tribal Regs????

[fair-chase]

ok. ok it is the USA but its still my ceded land. and i dont take hand outs. i  will come out of my tee pee staight to my ceded land and go shoot some elk.

Here lies the whole problem. Its not your land or my land it OUR LAND and OUR RESOURCES. If you want to deplete all game from the reservation - Go for it. When it comes to ceded lands outside the res. Buy a license and follow the rules like everyone else. That way there is some measure of controll over the herds and we can ensure they will be there for future generations. Does anyone really believe that at the rate things are going there will be any game left on tribal lands. Oh wait, there isn't much game left on tribal lands that is why you must venture out to ceded lands to deplete those resources as well.

[monster_bull]

there is plenty of game left on the reservation. i do want to help mange the herd. i understand that we do need to do that.
but when i get on here and all you white guys do is talk sh.t. makes me not even give a *censored*.Us and some of you white guys can shoot bulls. so there is plenty to go around. maybe if you guys took a reasonable approach instead of Native
bashing maybe you might get some natives on the wagon with ya. I am for natives not shooting little bulls. I think it is
a waste. I have seen a truck with 2 immature bulls in the back. makes me sick. I am with ya on that. they don't need to do that *censored*. I hunt but i hunt for the old bulls. I am a hunter. i want the biggest and the best just like the rest of you guys. when i need meat i will shoot a spike. Not a true spike. I will shoot a branched spike or a cow. Because i know in some areas white guys can only shoot true spikes. I respect your hunting season. I just might buy a tag next year. I will do that
all for good reason. That doesn't bother me. Like i said i want to help. but you white guys make it so hard to reason with.  But dont ask me to abandon my rights. I will never do that. It is my birth right. But i will work with you guys. 

[BlackRidge]

i am native. and i don't abuse *censored*. Yes i hunt. and yes i will shoot what i need to fill my freezer and yes i will shoot bulls and bucks and does and cows. it is my birth right. and yours is to buy a tag and wait in line. you can thank your ancestors for that.they came and killed everything they seen for hides and horns. not for food buy for money and glory.  my land was almost 3/4 of Washington until the whites came and put my
ancestors on 1.3 million acres. I hunt were my birth right is. What belongs to me. you guys hunt on my ceded land. So what.. if a native shoots
a bull.. and.... Some pf you guys are just jealous that you cant... I do have an opened mind. but all you guys do is bash Natives. what you think
talking crap about Natives is going to stop us from hunting. You just make us mad. Just because were different and have something that you
want and you cant have it. You think you need to take it from us. Just like your ancestors.

Very good points.

That being said

Times change, we all need to adapt.

[ICEMAN]

there is plenty of game left on the reservation. i do want to help mange the herd. i understand that we do need to do that.
but when i get on here and all you white guys do is talk sh.t. makes me not even give a *censored*.Us and some of you white guys can shoot bulls. so there is plenty to go around. maybe if you guys took a reasonable approach instead of Native
bashing maybe you might get some natives on the wagon with ya. I am for natives not shooting little bulls. I think it is
a waste. I have seen a truck with 2 immature bulls in the back. makes me sick. I am with ya on that. they don't need to do that *censored*. I hunt but i hunt for the old bulls. I am a hunter. i want the biggest and the best just like the rest of you guys. when i need meat i will shoot a spike. Not a true spike. I will shoot a branched spike or a cow. Because i know in some areas white guys can only shoot true spikes. I respect your hunting season. I just might buy a tag next year. I will do that
all for good reason. That doesn't bother me. Like i said i want to help. but you white guys make it so hard to reason with.  But dont ask me to abandon my rights. I will never do that. It is my birth right. But i will work with you guys. 

Here is the problem; One or two reasonable tribal members who target mature animals, who do not waste wildlife are not going to be winning over the hearts and minds of non-tribal hunters. The blatant disregard for ethical hunting by so many members and lack of prosecution by the tribes has driven a wedge between the two groups in my opinion.

[General Disarray]

I agree with Monster Bull on this.  The Treaty(no matter how old) says they can do this and good luck challenging the treaty.  Treaty law is the highest law of the land.  We didn't win, they didn't lose.

If you really want to be afraid of what might happen to the state herds, watch out when some of the coastal tribes claim birth right to land east of the cascades!!! I've heard that's not too far off. 

[coachcw]

the coastal tribes have plenty of elk to shoot over there .

[General Disarray]

the coastal tribes have plenty of elk to shoot over there .

I agree, but I heard they are preparing to make a run at it.  That came from someone employed by the Yakama Tribe.

[coachcw]

I've heard that some tribes sell there permits to other tribes for revenue , but not to sure how they work it.

[pods8]

It is my birth right.

As a US citizen this is what pisses me off, a tribal member is no better or worse than anyone else and does not deserve special treatment.  We all had ancestors with various trials and tribulations but in no way does that mean someone should be able to access more than their fare share of resources.

I'll love the day when these BS off reservation allowances are struck down for the racist practices they are and we all act as equals.

[runamuk]

It is my birth right.

As a US citizen this is what pisses me off, a tribal member is no better or worse than anyone else and does not deserve special treatment.  We all had ancestors with various trials and tribulations but in no way does that mean someone should be able to access more than their fare share of resources.

I'll love the day when these BS off reservation allowances are struck down for the racist practices they are and we all act as equals.

gonna agree here

and its awesome I am now officially a "white guy"  or do we females not even count  just making sure I have a full grasp on whether its racist or sexist treatment I am receiving

[wildbill100]

what a bunch of little cry babys get out and hunt be thankfull you can quit bitchen about the indians most of all poachin is done by white people in  this state you can see it in our court systems white poachers kill about 10 times the number of elk in this state than indians do

[Antlerking]

Wow I beg to differ, not 2 sure I agree with you on that 1. I havnt posted anything on this topic until I read your statment.   Ya I guees there are some elk poached here and there, I am not to sure how much, I havnt ever found 1 or seen 1. But the big bulls and quantity of bulls the indians snag up , In my oponion will do more damage than the poachers. But both or not helping the problem...

[runamuk]

what a bunch of little cry babys get out and hunt be thankfull you can quit bitchen about the indians most of all poachin is done by white people in  this state you can see it in our court systems white poachers kill about 10 times the number of elk in this state than indians do

Are you kidding me its because the tribes have a little card they flash that is the get out of poaching infraction free card..... they dont get tried or convicted because its ok for them to do it....and by them I mean a very small segment of the total population that commits the vast majority of the crimes and then flaunt it...most average people buy their tags hunt during season and use the entire animal this includes natives or whatever name is PC .....

[grundy53]

what a bunch of little cry babys get out and hunt be thankfull you can quit bitchen about the indians most of all poachin is done by white people in  this state you can see it in our court systems white poachers kill about 10 times the number of elk in this state than indians do

Duh! That's cause the Indian poachers never get sent to court. Genius...

[bobcat]

what a bunch of little cry babys get out and hunt be thankfull you can quit bitchen about the indians most of all poachin is done by white people in  this state you can see it in our court systems white poachers kill about 10 times the number of elk in this state than indians do