bowhunting and a .22 rifle?

[DoubleJ]

While bowhunting for elk, am I legally able to carry a .22 rifle strapped to my pack for shooting grouse?

[croix]

1. Rules pertaining to all archery:

a. It is unlawful for any person to carry or
have in his possession any firearm while in
the field archery hunting, during an archery
season specified for that area, except for
modern handguns carried for personal
protection.

[Special T]

Use a rubber blunt! they are quiet  and don't need anything special... good practice for the elk.  and they only cost like 5 bucks for a 3 pack

[DoubleJ]

I'm worried about the arrow shaft.  Bow is set at 70lbs.  If I miss a grouse and hit a rock, the shaft is gonna shatter

[stickhunter]

Read the regs, not trying to dis on you but some of the question people ask on here about the regs are clearly stated. Its even in bright red and number one under archery.

[Special T]

don't miss   or use a flue flue... A feathe duster looking arrow that only flies like 20-30yrds then falls to the ground harmlessly

[BLUEBULLS]

Use a rubber blunt! they are quiet  and don't need anything special... good practice for the elk.  and they only cost like 5 bucks for a 3 pack

Blunts sure do waste a lot of meat though. thye blow right through grouse taking every feather and peice of meat with them.

Take a sling shot.

[DoubleJ]

Read the regs, not trying to dis on you but some of the question people ask on here about the regs are clearly stated. Its even in bright red and number one under archery.

I did read the regs but in another thread, someone mentioned this was legal.  I was looking for some clarification

[DoubleJ]

Use a rubber blunt! they are quiet  and don't need anything special... good practice for the elk.  and they only cost like 5 bucks for a 3 pack

Blunts sure do waste a lot of meat though. thye blow right through grouse taking every feather and peice of meat with them.

Take a sling shot.

That's a good idea.  Is a pellet gun considered a "Firearm" for the sake of this discussion?

[FC]

Just get a wrist rocket, no question then.

[DoubleJ]

Think I can rig up a slingshot to work with my bow release?

[FC]

Think I can rig up a slingshot to work with my bow release?

lol...I'm sure you can if you want!

[Rgrady35]

A guy I work with rigged a sling shot to shoot arrows. He zip tied a whisper biscuit to it and replaced the nock with a golf ball tee. He cut the whisper biscuit just big enough to insert the shaft through. He claims that it is accurate. I believe he had to shorten some cheap arrow shafts. He showed it to some of us at work last week, I gotta admit it does look pretty cool.

[bobcat]

Actually it's illegal to kill a grouse with a slingshot. Stupid I know, but it is.

[Curly]

Also illegal to shoot them with a pellet gun........

[Bob33]

Also illegal to shoot them with a pellet gun........

That is correct.  An air rifle is not considered a firearm in Washington.

[FC]

Ok you guys both have me curious now, where do you read that? All I see is:

Forest Grouse

Forest grouse may not be killed with any rifle or handgun 24 caliber or larger, or shotgun containing slugs or buckshot, during modern firearm deer or elk seasons unless appropriate deer or elk tags are in the hunter's possession.

Forest grouse may be taken with shotguns as well as firearms smaller than 24 caliber during the entire grouse hunting season.

That is straight from the upland bird book. IMO the books are ridiculously over-complicated...

[FC]

So if I'm reading this correctly you would be in violation to carry a 22 for the purpose of shooting grouse but you could carry a .38 special with wadcutters (4 inch or greater barrel) for protection and shoot incidental grouse along the way but only if you have a big game tag during the big game season? It says nothing about using either bird points or slingshots... or pellet guns that I can find.

[bobcat]

Page 72: 

It is Illegal to:

                   Hunt game birds or game animals with anything other than a firearm, a bow and arrow, or by falconry.

[Curly]

I know a guy that limited on grouse a few years back by using a slingshot.  He shot them a day before the high buck hunt started up in the wilderness area.  It was a pretty good way to get some meat for dinner that night.

I also wish pellet guns were legal to kill grouse with, that would be pretty cool to shoot them with the pellet gun.

[bobcat]

I know a guy that limited on grouse a few years back by using a slingshot. 

Did this guy go by the name "Curly" by any chance?   

[Curly]

I'm not saying for sure one way or the other on a public forum.......   I will say that those grouse tasted pretty good........even though they could have used more salt.

[FC]

Page 72: 

It is Illegal to:

                   Hunt game birds or game animals with anything other than a firearm, a bow and arrow, or by falconry.

Bleh.

Nice one Curly.

[k_rex]

So i guess sticks and stones aren't allowed either. 

[CanvasGear]

So i guess sticks and stones aren't allowed either. 

357 ratshot.

CG

[BlackRidge]

Sorry if this is just the same situation, and I'm not seeing it, but how would the legality here work..

I have my archery tags, plan on going out for deer/elk, my brothers coming with but only has the bear tag. He'd like to carry a shotgun/-06 incase he sees something while with me. Would this be legal? Or would the firearm need to be left at camp/truck while I was out with the bow?

Would it be too much of a stretch to consider the 30-06 as a defensive weapon? 

[bobcat]

It's legal. Your brother has the gun, not you. I really don't see what a game warden could say. You're both hunting legally, you just happen to be together.

[Cylvertip]

22 pistol with a CWP would fit the bill 

[mjbskwim]

Sorry if this is just the same situation, and I'm not seeing it, but how would the legality here work..

I have my archery tags, plan on going out for deer/elk, my brothers coming with but only has the bear tag. He'd like to carry a shotgun/-06 incase he sees something while with me. Would this be legal? Or would the firearm need to be left at camp/truck while I was out with the bow?

Would it be too much of a stretch to consider the 30-06 as a defensive weapon? 

For the TS and Blackridge,I have to ask,what good does it do to bow hunt if you are going to start shooting guns off? Doesn't this kinda defeat everything you do preparing for archery?

What happens after the guns start going off? The animals become more wary.
Then you have lost your edge.

But I was going to say the same as cylvertip.
22 and a CCP,and a stray grouse was attacking you.

[halflife65]

I always bring my falcon when I go bowhunting...Convenient, silent but will pluck out your eyeball if you're not careful.

Just use the blunt on an old arrow.  I always carry a grouse arrow (I use Judo Points rather than blunts) that has different fletching than the arrows with broadheads so that I won't accidentally pull it out and shoot at a deer/elk with it.  It's also usually an old one that I don't mind (as much) breaking.  That being said (knock on wood), I shot my grouse arrow at lots of clumps of grass and other stuff this year and didn't break it. It's great for practicing in the middle of the day.  Z7 set at 65#.

[BlackRidge]

22 pistol with a CWP would fit the bill  

Wouldnt do much for protection, unless you're getting jumped by a flock of grouse

nasty birds, watch out

[krout81]

What about concealed Weapons Permit and Carry a .22 Like a Ruger 22/45 or even the Walther 5 1/2, Decent accuracy and you can leagally carry them now as long as you have a permit

[bobcat]

You don't need a license to carry a concealed weapon while archery hunting. They changed it this year.

[Kain]

What about concealed Weapons Permit and Carry a .22 Like a Ruger 22/45 or even the Walther 5 1/2, Decent accuracy and you can leagally carry them now as long as you have a permit

You can carry it without a permit but you CANNOT use it for hunting.  Even if you carry it, it is still illegal to hunt with it.  Trying to get around the law to use your side arm for hunting is exactly the argument they use to try and keep us from carrying in the first place.

1. Rules pertaining to all archery:

a. It is unlawful for any person to carry or
have in his possession any firearm while in
the field archery hunting, during an archery
season specified for that area, except for
modern handguns carried for personal
protection.

[krout81]

Gotcha so I guess I better load up a old arrow on my quiver then  Glad you posted that
Thanks

[Kain]

No Prob.  I dont agree with the law but it is what it is.  If it was up to me I think we should be able to carry any weapons we want as long as we only use legal weapons to kill the animal we have a tag for.

[mindfusion]

Well I don't know about you guys but I personally have been attacked by several grouse on SEVERAL occasions. I think that is exactly why the personal protection provision is included. and yes .357 snake shot works great for keeping them from getting the best of you