My marlin 22lr shoots groups like that. great 22. My dad and brother both had an h&r, my brothers 223 wouldnt group under 2" with any ammo, handloads or otherwise and the action on my dads 22-250 would open on every other shot! It wont group either. We sold the 223. They both shoot sub moa with thier 300wm so I dont think thier shooting ability is to question. The shotguns are great though!