I've been watching 3 bucks all summer for muzzleloader season. Two four points and a three point that is right at 30 inches wide. Someone else must have been watching them too, because there are three dead bucks within a half a mile of each other right in the area. They didn't even bother taking the whole head, just sawed off the horns, leaving about 1 to 2 inches of antler still on the deer. I'll put some pictures up of it later. Pretty damn pathetic!