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quick bear and grouse question.
« on: September 21, 2010, 05:01:49 PM »
sorry i dont have the regs handi and i just got asked a question.  can i carry my .22 rifle to shoot grouse and my .308 for protection or to take a bear at the same time?

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2010, 05:04:44 PM »
sorry i dont have the regs handi and i just got asked a question.  can i carry my .22 rifle to shoot grouse and my .308 for protection or to take a bear at the same time?

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2010, 05:07:45 PM »
i am 99.9% sure its only one weapon in the field but i cant tell the guy for sure without checking the regs and i cant check them right now

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2010, 05:09:37 PM »
Tell him he can carry a dozen guns if he wants. There's no limit on how many guns you carry while hunting.

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2010, 05:33:38 PM »
It would be ok to carry the 308, but illegal to use it on a bird. And yes some people do get "kicks" out of blowing up grouse.

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2010, 05:37:50 PM »
It is perfectly legal to carry both rifles as long as you only use the .308 for bear and the .22 for the grouse......Of coarse it does require you to be in a non firearm restricted area.
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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2010, 06:47:07 PM »
It better be legal, I always carry a pistol and rifle and shotgun, yes all 3 when hunting bear/grouse.

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2010, 07:55:16 PM »
It would be ok to carry the 308, but illegal to use it on a bird. And yes some people do get "kicks" out of blowing up grouse.

What law says you can't shoot a grouse with a 308? I've killed plenty of grouse with my 270, and before that a 264 Win. Mag. I always shoot the head off.

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2010, 08:11:58 PM »
Holy cow you people scare me, Do you not READ THE REGS? (not you doublej, your just asking a question), but atleast 2 people have responded with incorrect information.
Get your copy of the regs (you have one correct?)
Open it to page #72.
Now go to #11 (it's on the upper right).
And read it (you can read correct)
Now come back and tell us what it says regarding forest grouse..
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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2010, 10:01:33 PM »
OK, here it is. What exactly are we supposed to learn from it?


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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2010, 10:02:36 PM »
It would be ok to carry the 308, but illegal to use it on a bird. And yes some people do get "kicks" out of blowing up grouse.

What law says you can't shoot a grouse with a 308? I've killed plenty of grouse with my 270, and before that a 264 Win. Mag. I always shoot the head off.

That's only legal during deer and elk modern firearm if you have a valid tag.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2010, 10:13:31 PM by FC »
The reason there are so many Ruger upgrades is because they're necessary.

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2010, 10:12:01 PM »
For gods sake this has got to be a joke right, am i dreaming, bumped my head what??????
Page 72, #11 Prohibited firearms/hunting methods, sentence 2 states "Hunt game birds with a rifle or pistol, EXCEPT FOREST GROUSE!!!!!!
To hunt and butcher an animal is to recognize that meat is not some abstract form of protein that springs into existence tightly wrapped in cellophane and styrofoam.

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2010, 10:12:31 PM »
It would be ok to carry the 308, but illegal to use it on a bird. And yes some people do get "kicks" out of blowing up grouse.

What law says you can't shoot a grouse with a 308? I've killed plenty of grouse with my 270, and before that a 264 Win. Mag. I always shoot the head off.

That's only legal during deer and elk modern firearm.

Not true.

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2010, 10:14:41 PM »
For gods sake this has got to be a joke right, am i dreaming, bumped my head what??????
Page 72, #11 Prohibited firearms/hunting methods, sentence 2 states "Hunt game birds with a rifle or pistol, EXCEPT FOREST GROUSE!!!!!!


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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2010, 10:15:12 PM »
For more clarification:

(from page 19 of the Migratory Waterfowl & Upland Game Seasons" pamphlet)

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2010, 10:17:41 PM »
Still looking, I saw a specific mention of this for grouse and am looking for it now.
The reason there are so many Ruger upgrades is because they're necessary.

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2010, 10:19:48 PM »
I want to see what bigtex has to say. He usually knows the laws better than anybody and he says you can't shoot a grouse with a 308 ???     :dunno:

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2010, 10:20:26 PM »
For the sake of the firearm argument, forest grouse (ruffed,blue and spruce) can be hunted anytime during there open season Sept #1 to Dec #31, with any weapon that is legal to use on big game, also shotgun and .22, no other game bird can be hunted with a rifle or a .22.
I can, you can hunt/shoot GROUSE anytime during there open season with a .22, 30-06, 300rum or .410, or if you wish,
a bow or muzzle loader.
I can go out during archery season and hunt grouse with a 30-06 if i wish, or during muzzle loader season, or during the 3rd week of december........
There is no ruling/law that states i can only use a rifle if i wish during modern deer or elk seasons...
To hunt and butcher an animal is to recognize that meat is not some abstract form of protein that springs into existence tightly wrapped in cellophane and styrofoam.

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2010, 10:22:20 PM »
I want to see what bigtex has to say. He usually knows the laws better than anybody and he says you can't shoot a grouse with a 308 ???     :dunno:

The gist of what I remember is that you could only use a centerfire rifle for grouse during modern firearm season for deer/elk IF you had a valid deer/elk tag
The reason there are so many Ruger upgrades is because they're necessary.

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2010, 10:23:57 PM »
I want to see what bigtex has to say. He usually knows the laws better than anybody and he says you can't shoot a grouse with a 308 ???     :dunno:

The gist of what I remember is that you could only use a centerfire rifle for grouse during modern firearm season for deer/elk IF you had a valid deer/elk tag

Right. Did you see my 10:15 post?

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2010, 10:24:42 PM »
Pg 19 of upland bird regs.
The reason there are so many Ruger upgrades is because they're necessary.

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2010, 10:26:25 PM »
I want to see what bigtex has to say. He usually knows the laws better than anybody and he says you can't shoot a grouse with a 308 ???     :dunno:

The gist of what I remember is that you could only use a centerfire rifle for grouse during modern firearm season for deer/elk IF you had a valid deer/elk tag
Yes i was incorrect about being able to hunt grouse during the deer/elk modern season with a centerfire/shotgun unless you are in possesion of a modern deer or elk tag..
So if you have an unnotched deer tag and wish t take a grouse, go ahead, it legal, now fill your tag day #1 you better switch to a .22 or shotgun with birdshot till modern season is over, then go back to the 30-06 if you want, thats legal..
To hunt and butcher an animal is to recognize that meat is not some abstract form of protein that springs into existence tightly wrapped in cellophane and styrofoam.

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2010, 10:26:38 PM »
I want to see what bigtex has to say. He usually knows the laws better than anybody and he says you can't shoot a grouse with a 308 ???     :dunno:

The gist of what I remember is that you could only use a centerfire rifle for grouse during modern firearm season for deer/elk IF you had a valid deer/elk tag

Right. Did you see my 10:15 post?

Yes....lol I did now
The reason there are so many Ruger upgrades is because they're necessary.

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2010, 10:32:39 PM »
Yes i was incorrect about being able to hunt grouse during the deer/elk modern season with a centerfire/shotgun unless you are in possesion of a modern deer or elk tag..
So if you have an unnotched deer tag and wish t take a grouse, go ahead, it legal, now fill your tag day #1 you better switch to a .22 or shotgun with birdshot till modern season is over, then go back to the 30-06 if you want, thats legal..

Yeah but who's going to go hunt grouse with a 30-06, unless they are actually deer hunting, and in that case they will have a deer tag. So you pretty much can shoot grouse with any gun, any time.

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2010, 03:32:37 PM »
So.... I could bring my AR & 30-06 out with me while deer hunting in the event I was looking for forest grouse as well?


I figured the answer would be simple, but this thread makes my head hurt...  :bash:
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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2010, 03:42:51 PM »
So.... I could bring my AR & 30-06 out with me while deer hunting in the event I was looking for forest grouse as well?


I figured the answer would be simple, but this thread makes my head hurt...  :bash:

LOL...You actually can provided you have a big game license and appropriate tag for the season. An AR for grouse though?
The reason there are so many Ruger upgrades is because they're necessary.

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2010, 03:46:24 PM »
So.... I could bring my AR & 30-06 out with me while deer hunting in the event I was looking for forest grouse as well?


I figured the answer would be simple, but this thread makes my head hurt...  :bash:

LOL...You actually can provided you have a big game license and appropriate tag for the season. An AR for grouse though?

Haha first thing that came to mind for the under .24 situation. Sweet!
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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2010, 06:53:30 PM »
So.... I could bring my AR & 30-06 out with me while deer hunting in the event I was looking for forest grouse as well?


I figured the answer would be simple, but this thread makes my head hurt...  :bash:

LOL...You actually can provided you have a big game license and appropriate tag for the season. An AR for grouse though?

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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2010, 03:07:15 PM »
I have shot a blue with my .308 pistol (thru the neck, no waste, big one too), but that was more out of frustration. Too many blues in my muley hole. But, I normally carry my .410 pistol in case I need poultry. It is all good!
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Re: quick bear and grouse question.
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2010, 11:05:48 PM »
I take grouse every year with my 300 win mag, a blast next to their head knocks them senseless. My question is why only during deer and elk season? Why not during bear and cougar modern fire arm as well?
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