good day 4 the tribe

[ser300wsm]

 That guy is just an idiot,plain & simple. Just does not understand at all.

[monster_bull]

what is there to understand?  u guys dont get it. i see you point some of them are good and some r just stupid.  u can say what you want and try to change what is done but in the end i will still go hunting and kill and eat and injoy.

[colockumelk]

First of all I'm not going to stoop to your level.  As a matter of fact yes I do have a life.  Ive served to combat deployments to Iraq,  I have a college degree and am An Army Aviator.  I fly helicopters.  So yes I DO have a life.  What do you do that's so great?  Why do you live in the past?  I think a big problem is that WE are trying to look to the future and make things better and improve ourselves.  Where you are stuck in the past and can't get past what happened.  I mean come on man that was 150 years ago.  None of us were even alive back then.  Why are you so focused on the past?  No one succeeds in life if they are like that.  Why do you get so offended when we want to help out an elk herd.  WE NEED the cooperation of the Yakama's.  Without them this herd is stuck.  

Oh yeah I notice how you couldn't come up with one positive thing that your tribe has done.  I think you revert to insults because you feel threatened.  I havn't once called you names or insulted you.  I have not once blamed the Colockum situation solely on your tribe.  Yet when I ask you legitimate questions you revert to insults.  Which leads me to believe that you don't have any good points to argue.  And please answer me this because no one will.  WHY DO YOU feel that the past has ANYTHING to do with saving the Colockum Elk herd?  Because i'm trying to connect the dots on your ONLY argument and I can't quite do it.  So help me out on that one will you.

[colockumelk]

Hey coastal_native PM sent.  I don't condone any name calling or insults on this website.  I can guarantee you though Monster Bull does not have any position on the Colockum Elk herd other than greed.  He's not willing to sacrifice anything or do anything to help the elk herd.  The fact that his tribe REFUSES to cooperate with the WDFW on managment or even something as simple as harvest reports says it all. 

Usually when I bring up the fact or pose the question what is so horrible about the Yakamas doing harvest reports.  I get called names and the question never gets answered.  Any time I bring up imposing some responsible regulations such as one bull and one cow per Yakama in the Colockum (they can still shoot more elk in the Yakima herd or on their res) in order to help out the herd I get called names and of course how their people were treated 150 years ago.  I honestly can't make the connection between the past and responsible ethical managment. 

There were two other Yakamas on here for awhile named Rezboy and Yak-INDN who I really like debating with.  They were respectfull and actually answered the questions.  But I think they got sick of other peoples comments on here and moved off.  So I thank you coastal for being a good level headed guy.  I hope no one calls you any names on here. 

[monster_bull]

the Yakama tribe wont help our work together with you bashing them every other thread. i will hunt and kill what i want and when i want it. so go cry about it. the Yakamas are a good strong tribe. thats all i am gonna say.  i dont need to report any thing i kill. all you guys will do is take it and try to use it aginst us. you dont need to know what i do or what i kill.

[270Shooter]

the Yakama tribe wont help our work together with you bashing them every other thread. i will hunt and kill what i want and when i want it. so go cry about it. the Yakamas are a good strong tribe. thats all i am gonna say.  i dont need to report any thing i kill. all you guys will do is take it and try to use it aginst us. you dont need to know what i do or what i kill.

WTF is your problem?

[Coastal_native]

In a related story...I just realized what a PM was and found that I had quite a few...like I said, I'm still new to the site.  Sorry to all those that PM'd and I didn't respond.  Special T, i enjoyed your comments, thanks.

Colockum thanks for the reference material...I'll enjoy it.  

[monster_bull]

Coatal_native i stand up for Yakamas. some one has too. i get mad like others and say thing i shouldnt. but they trying to take away what they gaves us. i wont let that happen. They want us to do these kill reports so they can use it aginst us. i know they have a big investigation on us. i am not stupid. i know what they are up to.

[bobcat]

I don't care so much about the harvest reports. What I want is for the Yakamas to hunt only on the reservation. There's no reason you shouldn't. It's a HUGE reservation. You've got it all to yourself. No competition up there from the "white guys." It should be just loaded with game, seriously. It's prime wildlife habitat. I don't know what deer and elk numbers are on the reservation, but if animals aren't plentiful, I bet I can guess why.

[Coastal_native]

monterbull,

I agree with you on this, our tribe has a problem giving information to the WDFW directly because we fear they will try to use it against us...they've done it in the past.  Luckily we have the northwest indian fisheries commision.  They do all the data sharing with the state for the tribes over here...they just don't let the state know which tribe the data is coming from.  That's not important for their purposes anyway. 

[monster_bull]

i hunt up there for the same reason you white guys come and hunt my rez for birds.  and that use to be my land until i was kicked off. i will hunt and kill on my orgianl land. and the elk heard is great. we also have a great deer heard aswell. i hunt both places. i even hunt cowiche, hanford, colfax badger moutian lake chelan horse havens. i hunt everywere.

[bobcat]

You were alive 150 years ago

[mebco09]

Been watching this thread from around page 9. 

What Monster_Bull wrote to Colockum just sent me through the roof so I thought I would chime in:

Colockum- First and foremost, thanks for what you have done and are doing for our country.  Men like you are what allows us all to live as free men. 

Your research and insights have influenced many on this site and many others who might be able to make a difference.   Nuff Said.

[runamuk]

You were alive 150 years ago

I was thinking the same thing....

I did nothing to you...my parents and grand parents did nothing to yours...why are you picking a scab that is over 150 years old?  it doesn't make sense or is it simply easier to blame the white guy and not take any responsibility for your own life?  I know lots of people like this it is societies fault, the man keeping them down, whatever instead of taking some responsibility for a situation and working to make it a better place for our future generations.  

[monster_bull]

coastal native your a good reasonable man. the state has an open investigation on the yakamas. it been on going for years know. thats why when a game asks me how many i got i tell them my freezer is full of salmon and elk. well i got to go its getting to deep in here. talk to ya later.

Bobcat i am gonna go shoot a true spike in ur name this weekend. just to show you i can.

Ya, keep up the good work Colokum elk. but all *censored* talking aside. thanks for fighting for the USA.