good day 4 the tribe

[whiteeyes]

I was huntin on a farmers field I met last weekend with a rifle huntin buddy.  The farmer told us a few years back the game dept and a tribe guy showed up and asked if they could use his field to "help" the elk.  So he said yes, the elk love to hang out in his field.  So the next day they tranqualized a few bulls and cows and collared them.  This time it was all tribal guys, no dfw officers.  So the farmer asked just what were they up to and they said these were GPS tracking collars for tribal hunters.  The tribe goes huntin with a handheld GPS that has the elk marked on it to make it easier for them.  The farmer got mad and told them never to come back.  So not only do they get to hunt big long seasons they get to track the elk with GPS in this area.  Plus the helicopter flyin around was a state helicopter he said.  So we are also spending money to help the tribe kill animals?

I call bull shart on that. But, pretty funny though.

[MLhunter1]

The farmer did seem a little off his rocker, but we also talked to the farmer next to him and got the same story.  Except he said they tranqed em on the ground then landed a state helicopter in the field to put on the collars.  We did see several elk with collars on in the area but no bulls.  Farmer said that was because the tribe shot the collard bulls in august but didnt bother with the cows.

[Little Dave]

The stuff they put in those darts is pretty strong.  Maybe pass up on the collared ones.

Here, read up on the drug...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carfentanil

[whiteeyes]

The farmer did seem a little off his rocker, but we also talked to the farmer next to him and got the same story.  Except he said they tranqed em on the ground then landed a state helicopter in the field to put on the collars.  We did see several elk with collars on in the area but no bulls.  Farmer said that was because the tribe shot the collard bulls in august but didnt bother with the cows.

The farmer probably seen all the elk after the bulls shed there horns so they all looked like cows. hahah!

[boneaddict]

If you really want to see a sad site. Drive up the oak creek rd before they close the gate in dec when it snows.  I was in there last year and saw 14 dead elk along the rd within site distance.  Most had 2 strips of meat taken out of the back and the sacred crow and eagles got the rest.  The guys driving the rd had tan skin and they weren't mexican.   

This is VERY TRUE.

as for the GPS in the bulls.  That seems about as far fetched as lore gets.

[Practical Approach]

I was huntin on a farmers field I met last weekend with a rifle huntin buddy.  The farmer told us a few years back the game dept and a tribe guy showed up and asked if they could use his field to "help" the elk.  So he said yes, the elk love to hang out in his field.  So the next day they tranqualized a few bulls and cows and collared them.  This time it was all tribal guys, no dfw officers.  So the farmer asked just what were they up to and they said these were GPS tracking collars for tribal hunters.  The tribe goes huntin with a handheld GPS that has the elk marked on it to make it easier for them.  The farmer got mad and told them never to come back.  So not only do they get to hunt big long seasons they get to track the elk with GPS in this area.  Plus the helicopter flyin around was a state helicopter he said.  So we are also spending money to help the tribe kill animals?

I call bull shart on that. But, pretty funny though.

I don't think so.  That isn't even how GPS collars work. 

[MLhunter1]

How does a collar work then?  Whats the point of collaring them if they can't be tracked?  Also I have heard if you kill one with a collar and don't return the collar the dfw will show up at your house lookin for it.

[Practical Approach]

How does a collar work then?  Whats the point of collaring them if they can't be tracked?  Also I have heard if you kill one with a collar and don't return the collar the dfw will show up at your house lookin for it.

There are many types of GPS collars.  Most of them store GPS points within the collar through the life of the collar.  When it is time to collect the information.  The collar has a mechanism that releases the collar from the animals neck.  If the release mechanism doesn't work then the animal is recaptrued and the collar is removed manually.   Basically the GPS collars have a VHF transmitter built into them as well for tracking purposes.  This VHF system is the same as the ones used on regular non GPS collars.  You can't track the collar by GPS coordinates, but by direction of the signal.  I guess what I am getting at is that there is not a device that one can use in the woods that will show the current coordinates of where the elk is at that moment.  There are more expensive GPS collar units that get you close to that technology, but they are very expensive, and you would have to have cell service and be walking around in the woods with a laptop.

Yes DFW can track the collar to your home or car using the VHF signal that the collar is transmitting.  They can home in on it via a helicopter and pinpoint the precise location where the signal is being transmitted from.  This comes in especially handy for those poachers who like souvenirs.

[Special T]

Most GPS units today aren't the drop type... They are a data logger... They store gps points once an hour once a day  etc... then once every month or so they transmitt the gps signal to a satellite and the data is emailed to an acct... the real time gps units don't cost any more than the data logger.. What is expensive is the  satellite time, like for a Sat phone... $4 a min.... They use the NOAA or USGS Sats for data logger type collard because they don't use much band width resources, thus much cheaper... 

[Hohriverrunner]

They're putting a slaughter on the WEST END herd as well...The HOH tribe especially..no respect!!

[Coastal_native]

oooooooooohhhhhhhh noooooooooooooooo!

it's back from the depths...

[colockumelk]

Personally I think its Bush's fault that the Indians kill everything.  I mean look what they did to sasquatch.  They used to be everywhere, then the Indians killed them all.  But only the trophy male sasquatches of course. 

[colockumelk]

Hohriverrunner I wasnt making funny of you BTW.  That last comment was 100% aimed at myself. 

[gaddy]

OK-squatch lives, but only in the blues. and he left, headed south after he chased all the elk up to the clockum. should be around st helens by now. unless he headed north? any body seen him?

[colockumelk]

Blue Mountain Mafia AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!!!!!!      Spreading your lies about elk and where they live.