Great cougar call in video

[Kain]

You can hear the lion "meow" as it is coming in.  CRAZY.  The guy is a little amped up but I dont blame him.

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[bear]

Cool video!

[Gutpile]

Wow that'd be awesome. A shotty cougar. Gotta love it.

If he'd edit out 6-7 minutes of his chest thumping and "yes yes yes yes" stuff it's be better.   

[woodman]

Kain, you sure put some cool stuff on here.

[elkhuntindad]

great job Kain congrats

[dirty24d]

hilarious!!!      man  i'm scared and i freaking love it!! im pumped   PUMPED!!  i love it  YA YA YA!!      I'd be doing the same damn thing!!!  Very cool!!

[CAMPMEAT]

I've seen 15 cougars since I moved here. I want one in the worst way. I always saw them in my chip truck.................crap !

[bobcat]

That guy was hilarious.  

I'm wondering what the hell is he wearing orange for   Camouflage with orange over the top of it. Makes a lot of sense. Don't cats see color?

[haugenna]

All that fist pumping might get him on the next episode of Jersery Shore

[haugenna]

I don't see how that cat got killed.  He is sitting directly in the sunlight with a blued glossy barrel, a shotgun, and blaze orange.  Must have been a young cat.

[bobcat]

Yeah I was wondering about the shiny shotgun as well.

[Machias]

That was a young cat.  He was successful, but man that is a good what not to do video.  Way too much movement, he got lucky with a young cat.  Congrats to him. Was he using a 20 ga?  Looked like when he was re-loading the shells were yellow, maybe it's just my screen.  He should take up drinking decaf.  

[Wyoming08]

  Holy crap! What a lucky sucker. He did about everything wrong. Orange vest, Movement all over, and shiny shotgun...FOlks don't view this video as a "HOW TO" video. It was cool that he actually got something.  SOme guys just have all the luck.., OH YA, Nice frickin music...what a *censored*.

[elkslare]

Great video, congrats on a cougar kill. They are rare with out dogs.

[woodman]

I always love it when someone does something successfully in life and then people told them how they did it wrong, even though they probably have not accomplished it themself.

[haugenna]

I always love it when someone does something successfully in life and then people told them how they did it wrong, even though they probably have not accomplished it themself.

Anything worth doing you might as well do it right the first time and every time.  I was just pointing out that he tipped the odds in the cats favor big time with the no no's.

I have never hunted a day in my life for a cat, so no, I am not as succesful of a hunter as this guy.   

[rasbo]

well,not taking a cougar before,but..once most bobs Ive called in make the commitment  they seem set in their way and get shot..I know a bow hunter that had a cougar stalk him,he tried to scare it off but it kept closing the distance..thwaaap dead coug at 30 feet...

[Machias]

I always love it when someone does something successfully in life and then people told them how they did it wrong, even though they probably have not accomplished it themself.

I think you misunderstand the critical comments. Are you saying you think this is the way to do it?  We have all done things wrong and gotten lucky.  But if folks want to be consistent and not do a once in a lifetime event, then even he should look at this and say what can I do better next time.  I venture to say he could go out and do this a thousand times and never call in another cat....then again he could go out the next time and get lucky again.  I have called in plenty of bears and three cats so far, and I've made plenty of mistakes.  I try and learn from those and get better each time.  That's all these comments are.

[rainshadow1]

Sure that wasn't you, Kain?!?! Take a trip to AZ lately?

He saw it, then went over and set up on it. Obviously didn't have a clue what he was doing, but as you can see, it didn't matter! Goes to show how knowing where one is at is 90% of the battle. Definatley a young, dumb cat, but hey, he tagged it!

I've heard several cougars, live in the timber, second hand (stories), and on video now, calling back to distress. My theory is that young cats relate distress to a social interaction, because they've only heard distress when they were with Mom or littermates while making a kill. They've never heard prey distress when another cat wasn't there. So they call out to it.

     I think it's a pretty good theory...

[bobcat]

Does anybody know if orange is required in Arizona when calling predators  

[Kain]

Sure that wasn't you, Kain?!?! Take a trip to AZ lately?

He saw it, then went over and set up on it. Obviously didn't have a clue what he was doing, but as you can see, it didn't matter! Goes to show how knowing where one is at is 90% of the battle. Definatley a young, dumb cat, but hey, he tagged it!

I've heard several cougars, live in the timber, second hand (stories), and on video now, calling back to distress. My theory is that young cats relate distress to a social interaction, because they've only heard distress when they were with Mom or littermates while making a kill. They've never heard prey distress when another cat wasn't there. So they call out to it.

     I think it's a pretty good theory...

I wish it was me but sadly I have never even seen a cougar in my 20+ years of hunting. 

That sounds like a reasonable theory.  Maybe he has had good luck stealing kills also and hasnt learned that its important to be quite.

As far as the orange and shiny gun my theory is a little movement and/color might be a good thing as long as they dont recognize you as a threat.  If a predator hears distress Im sure it expects to see something making it and causing it.  Thats why decoys work even if they dont look like anything specific.  As long as you dont look human and dont go overboard it might not be as critical as we think.  ?   

[Vanguard30-06]

Did anybody else think that cat was going to jump up and rip his face off with the slasher music playing in the
background 

[BlackRidge]

Did anybody else think that cat was going to jump up and rip his face off with the slasher music playing in the
background 

nah, I was too busy laughing at the "YES! YES! YES! YES!" + Fistpumps 

[elkman54]

Orange not required in AZ for hunting predators, but he was hunting on a military installation down by Tucson. May be a requiement while hunting on Army Fort.

[bobcat]

Orange not required in AZ for hunting predators, but he was hunting on a military installation down by Tucson. May be a requiement while hunting on Army Fort.

That explains it. Thanks. That baffled me, why anyone would wear orange while trying to call in predators.

[woodman]

I always love it when someone does something successfully in life and then people told them how they did it wrong, even though they probably have not accomplished it themself.

I think you misunderstand the critical comments. Are you saying you think this is the way to do it?  We have all done things wrong and gotten lucky.  But if folks want to be consistent and not do a once in a lifetime event, then even he should look at this and say what can I do better next time.  I venture to say he could go out and do this a thousand times and never call in another cat....then again he could go out the next time and get lucky again.  I have called in plenty of bears and three cats so far, and I've made plenty of mistakes.  I try and learn from those and get better each time.  That's all these comments are.

Machias, I would say that you are a much better caller than I am. You must have learned a lot to have that kind of success!

[carpsniperg2]

very cool vid. younger cat for sure. must have thought that its litter mate caught dinner or somthing. i have never heard of them calling when coming into a distress call. i know they will talk to other mt.lion calls a chirps. but always though they would be quite when coming in to a distress. way cool. thanks for sharin

[mulehunter]

Very cool.  How can he tell if Kittens are around or not.   


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[Machias]

I always love it when someone does something successfully in life and then people told them how they did it wrong, even though they probably have not accomplished it themself.

I think you misunderstand the critical comments. Are you saying you think this is the way to do it?  We have all done things wrong and gotten lucky.  But if folks want to be consistent and not do a once in a lifetime event, then even he should look at this and say what can I do better next time.  I venture to say he could go out and do this a thousand times and never call in another cat....then again he could go out the next time and get lucky again.  I have called in plenty of bears and three cats so far, and I've made plenty of mistakes.  I try and learn from those and get better each time.  That's all these comments are.

Machias, I would say that you are a much better caller than I am. You must have learned a lot to have that kind of success!

Nope, just LOTS of stands.  I call a bear in about every 25 or so stands.  I believe we all call in MORE lions then we know, however I believe with rainshadow's new sounds that number will come down a fair bit, as far as lions are concerned.   

[Kain]

I hope so (with Rainshadows sounds) I have made countless calling stands and have yet to call in a (confirmed) bear or cougar.  A few bobcats and coyotes so I think Im doing right but havent seen any big guys yet.  Of course cold calling doesnt have the best odds either.     Cant wait to start seeing the pics from this season.

[Big10gauge]

What are the odds of calling in a cougar with a mouse squeaker?

Not saying it can't be done.

[Hangfire]

I would think if a cougar could hear the mouse squeak he would come look. I have called in a bobcat just sucking on my knuckle. I had seen the cat run across the road. I stopped my pickup and stood by a tree and sucked on my knuckle making a mouse squeak. After about 5 minutes I decided I better get back on the job. I stepped one step ahead to look in the direction the cat had ran. The bobcat jumped up with in 8 feet of me and ran off. The mouse squeak/knuckle sucked on noise could be any small animal, so I think a cougar would come in.

[Elkpiss]

Looks like he did it right to me, he killed the thing & called it in.. I dont know what you guys are saying by what not to do?? ! Ya he is a little goofy, good video Kain..

[bobcat]

I'd just never seen or heard of anybody calling predators while wearing orange.   

[seth30]

only if its camo orange.  I think that the wind moving the tall grass helped him out

[JoeVon]

Props to the guy for calling in the cat.  I'd have been just as excited as he was too, no doubt about it.  Not sure why he needs to be criticized by some of you though.

[bobcat]

I really didn't see any of the comments as "critizicing" him.    They were just comments on how lucky he was in getting that cat when he didn't follow many of the normal procedures for calling in predators. I thought the guy was hilarious with how excited he was. Of course the guy in the video isn't reading this so even if he got criticism what's the big deal?

[CAMPMEAT]

I always love it when someone does something successfully in life and then people told them how they did it wrong, even though they probably have not accomplished it themself.

Boy, oh boy, do I agree. Most people never ever will see a cougar and would sh!t themselves if they did. People always find something wrong with stuff like this. Can't criticize the guy, he's the one that got the cat. I had my gun on one 2 years ago. I was shaking so bad I couldn't of shot it if I wanted too, which I did !!!! I used to be on Primos Cabin Chat.You talk about a bunch of backasswards people. Criticized everything.

[bobcat]

Geez. I posted once, now I've got to say it again.... nobody criticized the guy. I think most of the comments were because people were amazed that he got the cat by doing everything "wrong."

[Kain]

I think people were just trying to point out that safety orange, movement, direct sun and a shiny gun are not ideal for predator hunting especially mountain lions.  Maybe the terrain or the brush kept him hidden from the cat, who knows. 

Still a cool video to me.  Called in to close range with hand calls, no decoys, less than ideal camouflage and taken with a shotgun.  How rad is that.  Just goes to show that you will never get anything sitting around looking at a computer, no matter how good your technique is.   

[sivart33]

I'd just never seen or heard of anybody calling predators while wearing orange.   

there is a video of someone calling yotes in a Santa suite. its not about color, its about movement

[bobcat]

I'd just never seen or heard of anybody calling predators while wearing orange.  

there is a video of someone calling yotes in a Santa suite. its not about color, its about movement

True but how many people do you know that wear orange while calling predators? Not only that, but he WAS sitting right in the open, and he WAS moving around a lot.

[Ihuntelk2]

  Wow!!! Ive had no luck. Ive only called in doe's and one bucks with my predator call.. Great Job!