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Offline nontypical176

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Re: I'm back, let the questions begin.
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2010, 08:44:16 PM »
I after many years of putting in for a tag drew the toutle bull.  Got a small bull but for me no more special permits.  I have posted it before, but look at the number of hunters that work construction or logging  (often seasonal or not full time), and need the work and money.  I can't logically apply for the permit no more starting back at 1 point and end up missing my season, because I need to work.  Several years my season has been cut short or don't get to hunt at all because of designating.  I want to bow hunt but the best hunt is early season close to home and I usually have work then, rifle season to short to take a chance missin that, so late muzzleloader is open near my house late and thats what I got to put in for not knowing if I will be working, but its a long season and my best chance to hunt if not drawn.

None of my buddys put in for tags because they don't know in the spring, what times they will have off in the fall.  A guy will take vacation for a Special Permit, I did this year and it cost me plenty to take the time off, but can't afford to take the general season off every year.  I hunt when I can afford to, where I can afford to (close to home).  The WDFW says its because of crowding we have to designate, but its unfair for those of us that think WORK IS IMPORTANT.  Something should have been changed a long long time ago.  I will now cause "crowding" because I will be buying my tag the day before the season that I'm not working. 

Keep thinking if enough of the people that feel the same as me start bit***** that something will change, thats why I keep posting it.  The WDFW knows how I feel on a pretty regular basis also(emails, calls, in person).   I get it... make us designate EAST/WEST and pay for a tag when we apply, not designate the weapon we will be using if not drawn.  They are just screwing the Working Man.

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Re: I'm back, let the questions begin.
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2010, 09:21:52 PM »
How many within the WDFW actually hunt?

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Re: I'm back, let the questions begin.
« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2010, 09:27:47 PM »
How many within the WDFW go out and hunt?

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Re: I'm back, let the questions begin.
« Reply #33 on: November 09, 2010, 12:17:58 PM »
Mike,

Glad you are back. Sorry to hear about your job, that sucks. I have a question, if we, "The People of Washington" have a question about how WDFW sees a situation or how it works internally, why would "they" fear or loath that? Why do they make you, "fear for your job?" If you are not doing any more than a FOIA request, what is the big deal?

I have posted a few times that WDFW is becoming adversarial to hunters and fishermen, heck, the General Public for that matter. I don't just mean Game Wardens in the field. I mean at Offices & Regulations as well. I have met awesome people, Officers, and people in the Offices. I have received good information which I am grateful for. But, I don't understand the general mistrust. Especially here on this site. Most people here would turn in a person illegally taking game in a heart beat. (IMHO) Most of the questions the law is how to abide by it not how to get around it. Even when I have said things that were not in favor of WDFW it is no different than I would have commented in regard to a traffic stop.

Anyway, I for one am glad you are here to post.  :hello:
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Re: I'm back, let the questions begin.
« Reply #34 on: November 09, 2010, 12:45:14 PM »
Q:I am currently in a law enforcment program and plan on going to college after hischool getting my 4yr degree and then i am going to try and get on board (get hired onto) wdfw, I will still be hunting (when I have the opportunity, if i get hired on) . But this was my real question, If a wdfw officer is out on patrol during season and has his tag (say elk season in example) and he sees an elk can he shoot it and toss it in his truck.?
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Re: I'm back, let the questions begin.
« Reply #35 on: November 09, 2010, 01:28:37 PM »
Q:I am currently in a law enforcment program and plan on going to college after hischool getting my 4yr degree and then i am going to try and get on board (get hired onto) wdfw, I will still be hunting (when I have the opportunity, if i get hired on) . But this was my real question, If a wdfw officer is out on patrol during season and has his tag (say elk season in example) and he sees an elk can he shoot it and toss it in his truck.?

No....not anymore.  Ethics rules have come into play.  Wasn't frowned 30-40 years ago if they used common sense away from the crowds.
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Re: I'm back, let the questions begin.
« Reply #36 on: November 09, 2010, 07:28:33 PM »
Q:I am currently in a law enforcment program and plan on going to college after hischool getting my 4yr degree and then i am going to try and get on board (get hired onto) wdfw, I will still be hunting (when I have the opportunity, if i get hired on) . But this was my real question, If a wdfw officer is out on patrol during season and has his tag (say elk season in example) and he sees an elk can he shoot it and toss it in his truck.?
:chuckle:   That's a good question actually. But yeah, probably wouldn't look good if a WDFW officer was hunting on state time, with state equipment. I've heard if you really like to hunt you don't want to be a game warden because you won't ever have time off during hunting season. May not be true though.

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Re: I'm back, let the questions begin.
« Reply #37 on: November 09, 2010, 07:58:53 PM »
welcome back

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Re: I'm back, let the questions begin.
« Reply #38 on: November 09, 2010, 08:09:00 PM »
Q:I am currently in a law enforcment program and plan on going to college after hischool getting my 4yr degree and then i am going to try and get on board (get hired onto) wdfw, I will still be hunting (when I have the opportunity, if i get hired on) . But this was my real question, If a wdfw officer is out on patrol during season and has his tag (say elk season in example) and he sees an elk can he shoot it and toss it in his truck.?
:chuckle:   That's a good question actually. But yeah, probably wouldn't look good if a WDFW officer was hunting on state time, with state equipment. I've heard if you really like to hunt you don't want to be a game warden because you won't ever have time off during hunting season. May not be true though.

You'll have time off, just not a significant amount to scout and hunt, especially if you have a family and other obligations. Which is one reason why many WDFW Officers either hunt archery (longer seasons and also not as busy for work) or out of state (different timeframe for seasons).

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Re: I'm back, let the questions begin.
« Reply #39 on: November 09, 2010, 09:50:49 PM »
How long has the WDFW been releasing wolves into Washington State and what do they plan on doing when they have very low returns on deer and elk?
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Re: I'm back, let the questions begin.
« Reply #40 on: November 09, 2010, 11:01:29 PM »
So you know of any future changes to the eastside going to 3pt min soon? Its so over populated with big bulls as i am sure the west side is too. Maybe give out more bull tags? What can be done? I am mainly talking unit 356

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Re: I'm back, let the questions begin.
« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2010, 11:02:25 AM »
How do I beat the system and get a tag every year?
like others with zero points?

Just kidding....  ;)

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Re: I'm back, let the questions begin.
« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2010, 11:23:06 AM »
I cant believe I missed this.....

I have a question:  Who decided that the inner workings of the department needed to be secret and that you would no longer be able to post on this forum?
 

I think they should be fired Yesterday.
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Re: I'm back, let the questions begin.
« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2010, 11:36:38 AM »
Q:I am currently in a law enforcment program and plan on going to college after hischool getting my 4yr degree and then i am going to try and get on board (get hired onto) wdfw, I will still be hunting (when I have the opportunity, if i get hired on) . But this was my real question, If a wdfw officer is out on patrol during season and has his tag (say elk season in example) and he sees an elk can he shoot it and toss it in his truck.?
:chuckle:   That's a good question actually. But yeah, probably wouldn't look good if a WDFW officer was hunting on state time, with state equipment. I've heard if you really like to hunt you don't want to be a game warden because you won't ever have time off during hunting season. May not be true though.


Absolutely false......they have time off like anyone else.  Busy season...yes, but always have some time if they choose to hunt.  Problem is....the hunt can turn into work as you're out there with the public, who always seem to present an opportunity to enforce the law. 
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Re: I'm back, let the questions begin.
« Reply #44 on: November 10, 2010, 11:58:27 AM »
What specific public disclosure request would produce whatever documents the licensing dept and law enforcement uses to implement regulations? What's the name of the in-house processing. Guidelines?  I've spoken to multiple agents in different departments that all but verbatim quote very specific language that is NOT found in the wdfg booklet nor wac's... ?  If a member of the wdfg are failing their duties or conducting themselves unethically...what course of action is the most effective to get. The situation rectified?  As in... an email to D Ware fails to yield. Results...  what out of house office or agency has the weight to get it done?  Is there anything below the gov's desk?

 


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