Berger VLD HSM ammo

[jackelope]

I'm considering this ammo for my 300win mag in the future. For you bullet/ammo guru's out there...What am I gaining over my current 180 grain Nosler accubonds? I have not chrono'd my round in my rifle so I don't know how fast it is. My barrel is a 1:10 twist and is 26" long.  I'm not concerned about recoil. Just want to choose a good bullet for deer or elk that I typically hunt in open country where 300 yard or more shots would be/could be common. I've not been unhappy with the Accubond and don't really need to change, just looking at something different. I don't reload.

They offer a 185 grain VLD round:

HSM's Trophy Gold™ ammunition using Berger VLD bullets
 
Velocity:  3094 fps
 
Energy: 3933 ft/lbs
 
Barrel Length: 27.5"
 
Bullet B.C.: .549
 

They also offer a 210 grn version:

HSM's Trophy Gold™ ammunition using Berger VLD bullets.
 
Velocity: 3050 fps
 
Energy: 4339 ft/lbs
 
Barrel Length: 27 1/2"
 
Bullet B.C.: .631
 

They have a 168 grain but I suspect the difference would not be worth the change.

[MHWASH]

I have no personal experiance, but head over to 24HRcampfire. It's getting alot of press over there.

[GoldTip]

Jackelope, I haven't used their stuff, but I know my cousin has used quite a bit of it, and has handloaded the Berger's  quite a bit as well.  I've seen some of the shot's he's made and heard some of his stories, he's got the pics to back them up, he loves the bullets.  I would however run them thru a chrono as I would be hard pressed to believe they can get 3050fps with a 210gr bullet out of a 300 win mag.

[jeepasaurusrex]

130gr Berger VLD .270  Nuff said. 



My Howa loves this bullet. I have got my tightest groups so far with it. (5 touching @200)

[jjhunter]

Stick to the accubond for what you are doing.   I handload the 190 Berger VLD for my 13 lb 300 Win Mag.   I am getting 3110 fps out of a 27 1/2 Hart barrel.  It will shoot in the teens and is a consistent 1/4 MOA rifle.   I built it for shooting 600+ yards - mostly steel, but some hunting.

[jackelope]

Stick to the accubond for what you are doing.   I handload the 190 Berger VLD for my 13 lb 300 Win Mag.   I am getting 3110 fps out of a 27 1/2 Hart barrel.  It will shoot in the teens and is a consistent 1/4 MOA rifle.   I built it for shooting 600+ yards - mostly steel, but some hunting.

Thanks bud...that's the kind of info I was looking for. I will save my pennies till it comes time to ring some gongs.

[Antlershed]

Hey jeep, what powder are you using with those 130's in your .270? Thanks

[wastickslinger]

509er and I could not get the bergers to group worth a crap in our Tikka 7mm's. We tried many different bullets and the accubond was the tightest group. 

[MtnMuley]

HSM is the best factory ammo I would recommend.  As always, the key is, what shoots out of your gun.  Whether it accubond, scirocco, or the VLD.  Of the two choices you listed, either would be a good choice.  The 185s should do anything you'd need, but the huge BC of the 210 is going to prevail down range.  I use the 175 VLDs out of my 300RUM and couldn't be happier.  

[longrange7mm]

Bergers are extremely temperamental either your gun loves them or hates them! If it loves them then you will not be happier if it doesnt then go back to the accubonds. Its worth the 40 dollars for the bullets to give them a shot. or maybe some one on here that shoots them in 300 win would sell you 5 to try them? I shoot both I shoot a 300 gr berger and a 225 accubond out of my 338 RUM and they both shoot great out to 1000 the berger is alot more stable in High wind conditions though.  And I shoot a 115gr Berger out of my 2506 and they are flat impressive.
This is the lungs of one of my does last year at 711 with a 9 mph wind with the 115gr she was dead before she hit the ground

[jackelope]

What's the bullet performance like? Do they grenade when they hit or stay together or what?

[MtnMuley]

Absolutely no grenading.  Weight retention is great.  Maybe I should share the video of your last doe lr7mm....... She was dead on four legs.  

[bobcat]

Absolutely no grenading.  Weight retention is great.  Maybe I should share the video of your last doe lr7mm....... She was dead on four legs.  

What about if the shot is at 50 yards instead of 500? Will the bullet still stay together at the higher velocity?

[jackelope]

Absolutely no grenading.  Weight retention is great.  Maybe I should share the video of your last doe lr7mm....... She was dead on four legs.  

I've killed plenty of deer that did the boom-flop. That happens almost every time my buddy shoots one with Ballistic tips but they frag bad when they hit stuff.

[wastickslinger]

Absolutely no grenading.  Weight retention is great.  Maybe I should share the video of your last doe lr7mm....... She was dead on four legs.  

I've killed plenty of deer that did the boom-flop. That happens almost every time my buddy shoots one with Ballistic tips but they frag bad when they hit stuff.

Your accubond should stay together. I shot my buck this year with a 160g accubond at 75 yards and it was a double lung trough and through.