tikka t-3 30-06 or 7mm mag

[carpsniperg2]

i think everyone should own a 30-06 but the 7mm does have better ballistic's. so i would go with the 7mm mag in your shoes.

[BLUEBULLS]

the 7mag is about "100 yards better" for lack of better words.

30-06 will work for just about anything though.

[bobcat]

the 7mag is about "100 yards better" for lack of better words.

No way is it '100 yards better.'  I'd say 25 yards, at best.

[Curly]

Why not just get another 270WSM?  Then you and your son could use the same ammo.

[bobcat]

You're comparing foot-pounds of energy? That's a useless number. Means nothing. Both the 7mm Magnum and the 30-06 are basically 400 yard rifles. What the 7 will do, the 30-06 will do just as well.

[bobcat]

Speed and energy is what puts your game in the dirt.

No, a hole in one side and out the other is what does that. Energy is just a number based on the velocity and weight of the bullet. It means nothing. If the bullet has sufficient velocity to go through an animal, it will die. Doesn't matter what the foot-pounds of energy happens to be. A 7mm mag or 30-06 both have more than enough velocity to kill as far as most people are able to hit their target. And while the trajectory of a 7 mag might be slightly better, as with either one when you get beyond about 400 yards you're going to have to know the distance and the drop of your bullet at that range. That's what rangefinders are for...

[bobcat]

Both the 7mm Magnum and the 30-06 are basically 400 yard rifles.

Seriously? 400 yards? That is just the begining of what a 7mm is capable. They are a 1000 yard gun no problem!

Depends on the shooter. But if a 7 mag is good for 1000 yards, then so is the 30-06.

[bobcat]

Both cartridges are so close ballistically you're just splitting hairs when comparing them. And remember, we're talking about an out of the box, lightweight, Tikka here, not a custom built, long range, 15 pound rifle. You'd really be stretching the capabilities of such a rifle in either caliber, at anything beyond 400 yards.

[Antlerking]

Both cartridges are so close ballistically you're just splitting hairs when comparing them. And remember, we're talking about an out of the box, lightweight, Tikka here, not a custom built, long range, 15 pound rifle. You'd really be stretching the capabilities of such a rifle in either caliber, at anything beyond 400 yards.

I disagree. 400 yards is a chip shot with my Tikka 7mm.

Ditto.  I agree with stickslinger for the 1st time

[bobcat]

Maybe. But I said "beyond" 400 yards.

[Curly]

Too bad there isn't a moderator around here to get rid of these thread jacking posts..........


 

[bobcat]

I wasn't replying to your post about the 243. It was in reply to you saying 400 yards was a "chip shot."

We all know the 243 is not a good elk cartridge. But by the numbers, you could actually show it to be a great elk cartridge, if you just go by the energy numbers. As I have said, the calculated foot-pounds of energy is nothing more than a number. If a particular load out of a 7 mag shows it has 200 foot pounds more than a 30-06 load, it doesn't mean it will kill better. No animal can tell the difference between 200 foot pounds.

I used to believe in the numbers too. Over the years I came to the realization that all you need is a hole in, and a hole out, and you've got a dead animal.

30-06 = 7mm Rem. Mag.    

[bobcat]

Too bad there isn't a moderator around here to get rid of these thread jacking posts..........


 

Hey, we're still 100% on topic!  The question was which should he get in a Tikka- 7 mag or 30-06. I don't see a thread jack here. 

[Curly]

Too bad there isn't a moderator around here to get rid of these thread jacking posts..........


 

Hey, we're still 100% on topic!  The question was which should he get in a Tikka- 7 mag or 30-06. I don't see a thread jack here. 

You are right.  Keep at it, it is entertaining.

Oh, and if 30-06 = 7mm mag.....than 270 win = 300 win mag

[bobcat]

Oh, and if 30-06 = 7mm mag.....than 270 win = 300 win mag

No, not quite. There's enough discernable difference between those two that I wouldn't call them equals.