how many un - true spikes got poached this weekend

[monster_bull]

how many? i heard of three so far

[D-Rock425]

I haven't heard of any yet.  The true spike rule is BS anyway but that's another topic.

[hunter-4-life]

well i saw one spike by 2 that was shot illegally.

[banannaclip]

i dont beleive their being poached intentionaly.its  just hunters  see spikes and shoot then realize they have a problem. a true spike has no points above the length of its ears its damn hard to tell  a true spike,thats why that   rule was put in place the game department wants failure to recognize a legal target more money for them ,and proves that modern firearm season is in question. if you shoot a spike and there is a 1'' tine above the ear that you failed to spot i would not consider that person a poacher and thats what happening out there. thats too bad it happens  its not intentional . say now you shot the spike found a 1'' tine above the ear  now its not legal kinda hard to hide an elk  they just leave it happens ALL THE TIME . the rule needs changed back as before thats foresure. say hunters are going and shooting big bulls in spike only unit NOW THAT IS POACHING,unless you have in your possion a branched antler tag for the current season. which is like winning the lottery for some units.

[woodywsu]

the rule is no longer above/under the ears. Here is the language from the regs.

Bull elk taken in these units must have both antlers with no branching originating
more than four inches above where the antlers attach to the skull. Under the
true spike restriction, the taking of an elk that has two points on one side or has
antler points within one inch of the definitions regarding length of point, or point of
origination is an infraction. All other types of violations of the true spike restriction
are subject to current penalties and assessments.

[banannaclip]

i stand corrected your rght its  4'' .

[Curly]

i dont beleive their being poached intentionaly.its  just hunters  see spikes and shoot then realize they have a problem. a true spike has no points above the length of its ears its damn hard to tell  a true spike,thats why that   rule was put in place the game department wants failure to recognize a legal target more money for them ,and proves that modern firearm season is in question. if you shoot a spike and there is a 1'' tine above the ear that you failed to spot i would not consider that person a poacher and thats what happening out there. thats too bad it happens  its not intentional . say now you shot the spike found a 1'' tine above the ear  now its not legal kinda hard to hide an elk  they just leave it happens ALL THE TIME . the rule needs changed back as before thats foresure. say hunters are going and shooting big bulls in spike only unit NOW THAT IS POACHING,unless you have in your possion a branched antler tag for the current season. which is like winning the lottery for some units.

 

[Hunterman]

Just another way to grab money for this so called game department..This "True spike" rule is stupid..

Hunterman(Tony)

[bobcat]

It's a ridiculous rule. Do any other states use a 'true spike' only rule for their elk hunts? I doubt it. If the elk population is so bad that they have to resort to something stupid like this, then it's pretty obvious they need to either close the area entirely, or go to permit only hunting in there.

[banannaclip]

what if they added this to antler restriction a spike antler cannot exceed more than 10'' in total length ,i am surprised they have not done that yet,wouldnt that make it easier. that way no elk would be harvested just camping with guns.

[6x6in6]

No, it's called if your not 100% sure, you don't pull the trigger.
If your 100% wrong, you man up and turn yourself in.
Pretty simple.

[C-Money]

I am not a big fan of the true spike rule eather. I am sure more than a few 1x2's or 1xWhatever get shot and left in fear of stiff penalties. The rule is working to a certain level cause I found a 2pt spike elk size shed this weekend that looked like it was lastsprings shed. I also found a skeleton of an Elk with the forehead notched out of it as if the antlers were removed. So, if a spike makes it to maturity, he can look forward to dodging poachers the rest of his life.

[C-Money]

what if they added this to antler restriction a spike antler cannot exceed more than 10'' in total length ,i am surprised they have not done that yet,wouldnt that make it easier. that way no elk would be harvested just camping with guns.

Dont give WDFW any ideas!

[banannaclip]

thats right be sure of your target number one rule of modern firearm hunting. but you gotta admit the rule is not designed to harvest  elk it is designed to penalize hunters. why do you think they close all the camp grounds during hunting season they want to make it hard as possible to have asuccessfull hunt.  off topic but hear this why do they make waterfowl hunting areas next too birdwatching areas  to create chaos of course

[6x6in6]

No, it's designed to provide an opportunity for escapement for everything that is not a true spike.
The penalizing part comes with the territory of not making the correct decision when you pulled the trigger.