Teanaway late archery

[stormin85]

yeah the muzzy's are good, if your confident with those and sighted in to those, use em, i know their tough, but i also know at this point i wont go back from the G5's, unless we could use expandables and even then its arguable if those are better.

[bushmaster]

I just changed my mind on going to the teanaway. If you have PM'ed with me I will tell why, and where Im heading.

[6x6rack]

Over in the Teanaway today for an AM scouting trip. After 2 hours up the N. Fork the ground was getting white and coming down hard. By the time I was out the roads were white. Hoping it dumps hard once or twice between now and the 24th.

The elk are still up high and it looks like starting to seperate into herds of Bulls/Cows. Lots of tracks up high with a distinct group of bulls that looked like maby 5-6 animals and a big group of cows. I only saw tracks as I didn't want to get to close and push anything, but there was plenty of sign.

I talked with the surveyors who have been up there the last three weeks and they haven't seen a single animal down low yet, and didn't see a single animal taken from the campground during the entire rifle season  Bummer.

I was able to shore up the private property I have, and they did see one 6pt behind their ranch a couple days ago, but unless we get some serious snow in the next two weeks it looks like I am going up and in. Getting stoked to finally get up in the woods after countless days and hours scouting since drawing the tag.

[6x6rack]

Regarding broadheads, I really like the 125 mag Slick-tricks. They fly perfect. I never need to adjust from my field points and they hit hard. I like the 1 1/8 cutting surface. Although you loose a little FPS with the 125's you pick up some front of center which helps stabalize flight and again, gives you more penetration. If your field tips are flying great but your broadheads are all over, you probably have under lbs shafts. Try going to 75-95 and that should fix the problem as long as your bow is tuned.

Broadheads will highlight over-flex in your shafts and cause your arrows to "fly" or "float" as your blades and vanes catch wind at opposite ends of a flexing shaft. The longer the broadhead and bigger the blades the more float you get. The Slick-Tricks are ultra compact and minimize the blade impact on flight patterns, but they wont fix a shaft problem.

After your shafts are the proper lbs, Spin test them, then spin test them again with a broadhead in. This shows you any inbalance caused by un-even glue, mis-alligned inserts, un-even shaft cut or ferrels that aren't perfectly true. Pick your best spinning combinations ( no wobble at the tip of the broadhead)  and number them 1-2-3 etc. If you practice well with 7-8-9-10 your first three will be darts!

[bushmaster]

I plan on runnin my 100gr wasp 4blade. I will pick up some g5 montecs for next year. Hey 6x, what arrows do you use? Do you use a diff brand or type for deer as opposed to elk? I have 1 issue I have been fighting with and that is fletchings!! I might be crazy but I swear when I was using 3.5' and 4inch fletchings I was getting better groups at the longer ranges, i.e (35-55yds). I spoke with a "pro" at wholesale sports in fedway and he said that the HP veins are a better shooting at all ranges. I think he's high! Any input???

[6x6rack]

 I shoot 75-95 Gold Tip camo pro hunters with 4" fletches and a real compact, heavy broadhead. Heavy arrows but they are freekin darts! What I loose in FPS I make up for in penetration and I personally like having a titch of room between my pins to help with target aquisition. I have never had fantastic success with short vanes and big blades, although i know those who have

[Map]

I shoot 75-95 Gold Tip camo pro hunters with 4" fletches and a real compact, heavy broadhead. Heavy arrows but they are freekin darts! What I loose in FPS I make up for in penetration and I personally like having a titch of room between my pins to help with target aquisition. I have never had fantastic success with short vanes and big blades, although i know those who have

6x_

I read your info on Slick Trick. I was curious how many elk you have taken with the ST 125?

thanks,
Map

[6x6rack]

Map,

We have only hunted with them 2 years now. I have not shot an elk with one. My hunting partner shot 1, a quartering too pass through shot on an Elk, and he lost one this year with a branch deflection, stuck in the front leg bone shot. Sounded like the arrow hit a tree. The only thing that has me a little ? with the SlickTrick is neither elk had a big blood trail. I was with him both times and neither was an easy track.

The one it was obvious why not, and the other bled out internally and into the front leg sack. Went about 120 yards after the arrow went in a whisp behind the front shoulder and just nicked the opposite side gut.

I've taken two deer with them. The last one a quartering away shot with a sliced rib, one lung, CP heart and it broke the off side leg, and the other a clean double lung pass through. Both deer left big blood trails.

I shot Muzzy for 4 years before them, and Thunderhead for 5 years before that. I could just never get field point flight with either of those. I must say with the Muzzy I shot a steel target support and it penetrated...The bad... I was off 18" at 60 yards, the good... it penetrated a steel target support at 60 yards, and the ferrel was still straight . Hopefully I can let you know performance on a big bull this year! I do love the flight and accuracy. A well placed shot is a dead elk! I want be comfortable at 60 yards, and I would have no problem taking that shot today.

[coachcw]

slick tricks work great , good blood trails and pretty tough , I 've shoot a few elk with them ( the 100,s) since switching from shuttle t's

[stormin85]

that was my problem, i wanted to pick up a set of the slick tricks, i was stuck between those and the montec's, unfortunately i was headed out to hunt some private property opening weekend early season and didn't have time to run to cabellas, and work sports only had the G5's, so that made my decision, so far i have liked how they shoot, haven't shot anything with them, but i would still like to pick up the slick tricks and try them side by side shooting out to longer distances.

still have not taken anything with the montec's but like 6x6 said a well placed shot will put the elk/deer on the ground. i grew up hunting in Michigan and we had no problem with the original NAP thunderheads, from like 1990, once sighted in and you know your accurate its all up to shot placement after that.

i do want to see what type of blood trail they leave though!!!!

[tip]

wow, some awesome tips in here.  I shoot Muzzy 125s and i get a lot of float - I might have to try the Slick-tricks

[PacificNWhunter]

I love my slick tricks, have not shot anything with them yet but they shoot awesome. I've shot both the mags and the standard in 100grn. Both fly great, for some reason my set up is slightly better with standards.

[bushmaster]

I have never shot with sllicktrick, but I can tell you that wasp boss SST 4 blade 100gr HAMMER. WASP invented the trokar tip that everyone is using now and the blades are stupid sharp. 2 years ago I shot a mule deer at 31yds with a hellrazor, and I can tell you I get better penitration on my wife! I switched to the BOSS, and at 46yds had complete pass threw. You can also drop 2 blades and run it as a 2 blade stinger. Im not a fan of the hellrazor design, and the g5 is the same as a hellrazor.

[fishwhackin]

I shoot a Hoyt trykon xl set at 62.5lbs. 29.5 draw length. Easton axis 340 arrows tipped with Muzzy 3 blade 100 grain broadheads.  This float that you are talking about doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me for some reason.  I had my muzzy's flying everywhere....spun the arrows with heads attached and noticed better group but not same impact point as the field tips.  Tuned my bow according to a magazine article related to the subject of making broadheads hit the same spot as field points (note: this took a few hours of shooting and adjusting) Now I can group the Muzzy's within 8 inches at 100 yards.  Funny story.....same way with the 100 grain steel force broadheads on the same arrows.  I can't make sense of this float theory due to the extreme difference in broadhead designs.  Steel Force heads that I was shooting were 2 blade with bleeders and a solid blade where as the muzzy being 3 blade but the blades have a void where air can pass through.  Not ridiculing or trying to be smarter than someone else.  Just passing on my experiences and what is working for me.  Good luck and hopefully this helps someone out! 

[colockumelk]

I use Slick Trick Magnum 125's and LOVE THEM!!! I tuned them up so they are hitting the same spot as my field tips to 50 yds.  Havn't killed anything but man they fly like darts.  I also noticed that at 40 yds they penetrated my brand new block deepr than my G5 Strykers that I used last year.    

Does anybody have some good picks from your Slick Trick Kills?