I am ready to heed Jerry's advice on the Vmax. My first coyote with my 204 Ruger (40 gr Vmax) had about 80% of its jacket stuck in the hide on the "going in" side. The lead went through and tore up the animal, but I was very surprised that the jacket didn't even make it to the meat. I'll have to load up the Noslers Charles Shawley shared with me.