I'm no expert on timing, but I rattled in a buck for my daughter that we blew out on Sat afternoon, and another guy rattled one in and shot it on Sun am. The neck was swollen and the tarsal glands were dripping. Seen the first few rubs Sat. morning, seen two nice (dead) 4x4's on the drive home yesterday with almost no traffic on the road, one was really a toad. Kinda makes me think the bucks are starting to get serious.