Turning In A Poacher

[rjn cajun]

I`m new to the site although I`ve been reading everyones topics for a few years. I hope this is in the right category. Just wondering what the next step is after turning in a poacher. I seen a fella shoot a spike buck in a 3-point minnimum GMU. Talked to the guy and informed him what the regs were in this GMU. He told me he was sorry for what had happened and that he thought he was in an any buck GMU. He told me he was gonna turn himself in. He was camped right next to our camp. The next week was elk and he showed me some paper work from the state. Didn`t look at it real well. I`ve never had to turn anyone in. I just thought it was the thing to do in case he was lying to me. I`m not concerned with bonus points I just want the S.O.B punished because he knew what he was doing. Sorry this is so long just wanted to explain this to all the other hunters on here. Anyone know what happens next if anything?

[Bob33]

Probably nothing will happen.  You should have called an enforcement officer when you first observed it.

You really expect someone to turn himself in?

[Hunterman]

So are you calling him a liar for NOT turning himself in?? He offered to show you paperwork that he did what he said he was going to do, and you didn't look it over too good..I say just drop it..There are some people out there that do make misstakes, and will confess to it..A misstake does not make one a poacher..

I'm getting sick and tired of people trying to get points off someone who just plain and simply screwed up..Try teaching them something instead of trying to screw them all the time..

Hunterman(Tony)

[sivart33]

So are you calling him a liar for NOT turning himself in?? He offered to show you paperwork that he did what he said he was going to do, and you didn't look it over too good..I say just drop it..There are some people out there that do make misstakes, and will confess to it..A misstake does not make one a poacher..

I'm getting sick and tired of people trying to get points off someone who just plain and simply screwed up..Try teaching them something instead of trying to screw them all the time..

Hunterman(Tony)

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[Michelle_Nelson]

So are you calling him a liar for NOT turning himself in?? He offered to show you paperwork that he did what he said he was going to do, and you didn't look it over too good..I say just drop it..There are some people out there that do make misstakes, and will confess to it..A misstake does not make one a poacher..

Hunterman(Tony)

 

Good on the guy if in fact he did turn him self in.  Sounds like he offered to show you the paper work.  IMPO I have a lot of respect for a person that will own up to a mistake like that and turn himself in.

[rjn cajun]

If ya read my posting I said I don`t give a #$%# about points.I`ve never looked into turning in someone for making a mistake or poaching. I should have given the details a little better just didn`t want to make a huge story. The guy new what he was shooting and it wasn`t a mistake. How do you mistake a button spike for a 3-point. The spike ran right by his wall tent. We had been watching the deer for a week bedding down and feeding by camp. He walked into my camp and sayed he had hit a 3-point and that`s what all the rucas was and he was looking for blood. The deer was laying 50yrds from his camp. So I went and helped him look for it. When I got to where he was he was gutting it out. I told him about the 3-point minnimum and he told me I was wrong that he just checked the regs after he shot it. I did look at the paper work and it did look real I just want to make sure I didn`t go over it with a fine tooth comb. Some time after we went to bed he left. The next day I seen crows flying around just outside the gate and someone had dumped a full deer carcass gutted and all with the horns cut out. I`m not saying it was this guy. But put two and two together it was just fishy. Again I don`t care about points I have enough. Just wanted to know if the gamies pursue these things. If the guy turned himself in like the paper work shows good for him. There`s few that would.  

[thomasmx]

This is how I look at it. Its not like you lied in a bored game or something. Your carrying a loaded killing weapon and your shooting it to kill things. If you think your ok with making a small mistake on not knowing where your hunting or the legal kill then I am very sorry but you should never be on this site. Everyone should know exactly what your shooting at. You might as well shoot into the brush at something moving because thats what your doing if you shoot something that you "think" is legal! Dont try to get sympothy for something you killed and think you should get handouts and a pat on the back for making a mistake. You should be done hunting for a long time if you make that mistake!

BTW Im not referring to anyone on this site personally. Im just taking about if I caught someone in the woods poaching. That *censored* does not fly by me. Im a huge hunter and love the code of conduct for hunting. Poaching is NOT in my book! Thanks guys!

[Bob33]

There are mistakes and there are mistakes.  Every hunter I know has made one or more mistakes.  However, shooting a spike (especially a button spike!) in a 3 point minimum area is simply inexcusable in my opinion.  Whether or not is was intentional is not relevant: if you can't see the difference you should face some consequences.

[bigtex]

You need to make the call ASAP. You should have called the local Washington State Patrol office (numbers are in the hunting/fishing regs) since they dispatch WDFW Officers 24/7/365. Waiting a week, month, year later doesn't really help them at all. It's the ever famous statement of "oh officer you should have been here yesterday". Well most of us carry cell phones on us, give them a call and report the violation immediately! Don't come on here asking what to do, because by the time you come on here it is probably too late.

[SemperFidelis97]

I agree that he did needed to be turned in, but as others have said we have all made mistakes there are situations where some stern conversation could get a guy straight without getting him a 3500 dollar ticket.  As for the dumped deer it should have reported as well dont know that a guy would cut the antlers off of a button buck, this was probably another *censored* altogether.

[bigtex]

I agree what he did needed to be turned in, but as others have said we have all made mistakes there are situations where some stern conversation could get a guy straight without getting him a 3500 dollar ticket.  As for the dumped deer it should have reported as well dont know that a guy would cut the antlers off of a button buck, this was probably another *censored* altogether.

Really? A stern conversation? You think that is better then slapping him with a ticket?

The ticket would be $2,540

[SemperFidelis97]

If you read what I said he should have turned the guy in.  There are situations some of which I have read about here that arent so cut, and dry in those I would use a little discretion making a mistake doesnt make eveyone a poacher.

[Michelle_Nelson]

rjn cajun I suggest not making post like the one you did with out including all the facrs.  That is how speculation and opinions come into play.

Your first post made it seam like he really did make a mistakeand was sorry.  That the guy tried showing you paper work varifying he turned himself in.

Your second post made it sound lke the guy knew the regs.  Knew he shot an illegal deer and didn't give a rats @ss.  Lied to you that he had just checked the regs.  So did the guy do this during deer season and leave with the deer?  Than come back a week later and show you the paper work from the state?  If he had the paper work (ticket) the gamies would have taken the deer.   

[rjn cajun]

rjn cajun I suggest not making post like the one you did with out including all the facrs.  That is how speculation and opinions come into play.

Your first post made it seam like he really did make a mistakeand was sorry.  That the guy tried showing you paper work varifying he turned himself in.

Your second post made it sound lke the guy knew the regs.  Knew he shot an illegal deer and didn't give a rats @ss.  Lied to you that he had just checked the regs.  So did the guy do this during deer season and leave with the deer?  Than come back a week later and show you the paper work from the state?  If he had the paper work (ticket) the gamies would have taken the deer.   

That`s exactly what happened. He left that night with the deer and I saw him the following week during elk and he showed me the paper work. You guy`s are right I should have turned him in the night I seen it happen. Never turned anyone in or had to. I don`t know the guy but was giving him the benifit of the doubt on turning himself in. Then he showed me paper work. Then I started thinking what if he`s full of @#$%. That`s why I called. Sorry about not giving the full details on my first post.

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