Burned

[ribka]

Co-worker was whining he could not get into birds with his dog. Took him to one of my areas for quail. Maybe a 80 acre always birds there but cannot take a lot of pressure.  (I 'll only take a few birds from the covey and let the rest go as they receive a lot of pressure from the hawks owls and coyotes too). I tell him as a favor for taking him out there to keep it a secret. He says sure no problem. No one ever hunts this area and is kind of a pain to access. We go hunting get into a lot of birds and he's happy.

The past few times I have been out there no birds. Finding lots of spent shells all over the area. Well am hunting and see this guy off in the distance with a couple of other guys jumping birds shooting jumping them again and shooting till no quail are left. I leave the area because too many hunters. I find out later it was the co-worker I took to my secret place  and has been bringing about 6-8 other guys to this area too.

Lesson learned

[lewy]

Ouch.....

[bobcat]

Co-worker was whining he could not get into birds with his dog. Took him to one of my areas for quail. Maybe a 80 acre always birds there but cannot take a lot of pressure.  (I 'll only take a few birds from the covey and let the rest go as they receive a lot of pressure from the hawks owls and coyotes too). I tell him as a favor for taking him out there to keep it a secret. He says sure no problem. No one ever hunts this area and is kind of a pain to access. We go hunting get into a lot of birds and he's happy.

The past few times I have been out there no birds. Finding lots of spent shells all over the area. Well am hunting and see this guy off in the distance with a couple of other guys jumping birds shooting jumping them again and shooting till no quail are left. I leave the area because too many hunters. I find out later it was the co-worker I took to my secret place  and has been bringing about 6-8 other guys to this area too.

Lesson learned

  I would be livid. You sure gotta be careful who you take to your spots.  

[Tony 270]

Happens to us all...

[carpsniperg2]

yep has happened to all of of guys that try to do a good thing for someone and get burned. sorry it happened. there is only a handfull of people that i would ever trust some of my hunting spots with. those are only the closest of friends! that i would trust with my life let alone a hunting spot

[alecvg]

I know the feeling.  Thats why I don't take anyone anywhere, or tell anyone anything.

[ribka]

I used to enjoy sharing info and taking guys with little experience or  luck hunting and fishing. And i used to think there was unwritten code among sportsmen. I have had guys take me to their secret fishing and hunting areas. Had a few nice guys on here share priviliged info. I would never even consider taking someone else to these areas.


Have to be more careful in the future

[gasman]

That sucks tha the would do that to you 

Got some other good spots you wan to share with me 




 

[Gutpile]

Co-worker was whining he could not get into birds with his dog. Took him to one of my areas for quail. Maybe a 80 acre always birds there but cannot take a lot of pressure.  (I 'll only take a few birds from the covey and let the rest go as they receive a lot of pressure from the hawks owls and coyotes too). I tell him as a favor for taking him out there to keep it a secret. He says sure no problem. No one ever hunts this area and is kind of a pain to access. We go hunting get into a lot of birds and he's happy.

The past few times I have been out there no birds. Finding lots of spent shells all over the area. Well am hunting and see this guy off in the distance with a couple of other guys jumping birds shooting jumping them again and shooting till no quail are left. I leave the area because too many hunters. I find out later it was the co-worker I took to my secret place  and has been bringing about 6-8 other guys to this area too.

Lesson learned

When I was a kid my dad and I went hunting with his "friend". This was a really great spot that had always treated us well. We hunted all day and got nothing. Dad was telling the friend how sorry he was that we didn't get any birds. They friend said "I know, I don't understand either. Me and a couple of friends all got limits here yesterday."    My dad absolutely came unglued. For one why didn't the friend mention it so we could go somewhere else, and for 2 why was he hunting a property that he was only allowed to hunt with my dad. Some guys just don't get the "code"

[ribka]

That sucks tha the would do that to you 

Got some other good spots you wan to share with me 




 

Only if you are drugged and blindfolded

[DoubleJ]

If you're taking someone to a honey hole, blindfold them and take an alternate route there so they can enjoy the day but don't know  how to get there

[gasman]

That sucks tha the would do that to you 

Got some other good spots you wan to share with me 




 

Only if you are drugged and blindfolded

Thats how I like it 

[gaddy]

took a friend goose hunting once,we did good.the next week the land owners wife came into the shop & told me that someone from one of the local guide services wanted to lease thier land. guess who. my (friend) wanted to be a guide & was trying to get property to ease his way into the company with promised leases.

[floatinghat]

I haven't been hunting long enough to have any secret spots.  But I am a steelhead flyfisherman, so I know of what you speak.  I have three or four friends that I will take to almost any "secret" pool I fish. They will in turn do the same.  That said we all know the dangers and respect the effort it takes to find and learn how to fish a given piece of water.  That said fish come and go, birds don't.  Sorry to hear that you work with an ass hat.  Two approaches I would consider

1) make sure that he and the others knows he screwed you
2) this one isn't legal

[rotty33]

before busting him, offer to drive and have him show you one of his secret spots, or maybe a couple. no respect.

[Boom Stick]

Sorry to hear it.  I had a place about 18 years ago that was loaded with Pheasant.  It was hard to hunt and I spent more time watching them fly out then shooting them do to early flushes, but it was that one place I could count on to at least see them.  After a successful hunt one day my buddy and I ran into my boss at the time.  He all but begged for us to take him.  We told him that it was important that he not share it's location with others.  He swore he would never do such a thing.  We took him.  Turns out that he was friends with the reporter of the sports page for our local paper.  I got to read a lovely article about this spot I showed him, with directions, and it told everyone that it held birds a plenty.  It took about another week for this land to be posted by the owner due to people not respecting the land. It appeared that someone had driven their 4x4 through the property to create a trail through the thick brush. Shortly after that the owner mowed it to the ground. He hadn't done that in all the years I hunted it. Not only did I not have that land to hunt, but all the Pheasants lost the cover they count on.  I let my boss have it, but the damage was done and the land lost.

[Billy]

Wow, that really shows the character for you "friend".  I don't know if I could let that go unchallenged.  I think I'd have to ask him why he found it necessary to betray the trust I had placed in him by sharing a favorite hunting spot?  Then I would be done with him.

He sounds like the kind of guy you couldn't trust around you girl either.  What a Jacka$$.

[Machias]

What a crock, sorry about your spot, they are more precious then gold.   

[high country]

happend to me twice, now where I hunt Ihave taken 2 friends and neither will come back.....they don't think it is worth the effort. I am good with that.

[BIGINNER]

SORRY TO HEAR THAT,... I HAD THAT HAPPEN TO ME PLENTY OF TIME WITH FISHING SPOTS,  BUT SINCE I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT HUNT I DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM WITH HUNTING SPOTS    

[Widgeondeke]

Heck I'll wear the blindfold and sleep on the way there if we can shoot some birds. You can even search & pat me down like the TSA to insure I don't have my GPS. When do we leave? 

[wildweeds]

AHHHHHHH the code.I know the code and obey it,My freind and pro trainer has taken me to numerous spots,I've taken him and another freind of his to my spots,we all understand that a guys spot is his spot.I have another freind who took me to his honey hole last year,he understands the code and knows that I do too.

  I also have a few aquaintances that I WOULD NEVER EVER take to a good spot because while they are all in all pretty decent guys they just can't be trusted.The lack of trust on my part stems from their inexperiance,the inexperiance is what tempts them to poach a primo private spot.I've got one guy that I hunt with some on the westside that I've shown the secrets to chicken hunting.It's not really any secret but his actions have shown me that he can't be trusted with private ground on the line in eastern washington.He'd be back with 4 of his other buddies quicker than you could say "Rumplestillskin".

[Tman]

Thats a crappy lesson to learn..  Find a new spot and let him know how good it is, show him pictures of limits, and make him beg, and then tell him you can't take him because he burned you last time!

Its tough to find hunting partners that you can trust, very few will keep your secret spots "secret" when they go with their other buds!

[Wacenturion]

Unless you are absolutely sure a friend is very ethical and his word is gold...............don't give up a spot, period.  The temptation is just too great for most.  Killing something overrides a personal promise. 

In my lifetime of friends, I can count on one hand the ones I could honestly trust as such.  Sad...but that's just the way it is.

[fethrduster]

Man, that sucks.  That happened to me once too.   One time I took a few "friends" from work quail hunting, and a covey of 5 birds was in the road.   We got out and I tried to get them to fly into the field next to the road so we could go after them, but they just sat there.  So I said, "well, let's move on, they aren't going to fly off the road."  I turned my back, and a few seconds later, "BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM."  They killed the entire covey on the road.  I couldn't believe it.  Ass hats.

[rasbo]

I could think of some guys that might want to introduce their wives or girl friends to him..My brother inlaw ex did that to me in Idaho..I wanted to tie him to a post and introduce him to a stud draft horse..

[Michelle_Nelson]

I've got 2 friends that hunt that I would share info with.  That is all.  I do not have any super secret spots yet.  Even if i did I would trust those 2 people.  It only takes one time to get burned and I do not want to get burned once.

[uplandhunter870]

i know how ya feel have had the same thing happen to me, took a now rarely seen aquiantence thought he was good buddy back then out for a quial hunt after months of begging. bigest mistake was taking him to my #1 public land spot. we limited in less than 45mins all the while he was asking questions as to who owns the land why did i park where i did is there a secondary way in how do the birds act once flushed etc etc etc.  i was 16 and like the moron i was when i was 16 i answered all of them trying to show off my "knowledge".  low and behold whos there the next weekend with 2 buddies and 3 dogs, yup, i yelled at that guy till i was blue in the face didnt matter they hunted that piece of ground to the very last quail that spot is to this day still trying the recover

if i cant trust a person with my life than they dont get shown spots on my good list, if i simply trust the person or if they are a good friend wanting to get out for hunting or fishing than they get to go to the so-so or we may get lucky spots.

[floatinghat]

Naches,  I wouldn't be pissed at the guy if its public land.  If he found "your spot" watching you walk in or out and explored it on his own like he claimed then look in the mirror, you burned yourself.  If your buddy gave it up then the blame goes to him.

[Sportfury]

Thats a crappy lesson to learn..  Find a new spot and let him know how good it is, show him pictures of limits, and make him beg, and then tell him you can't take him because he burned you last time!

Its tough to find hunting partners that you can trust, very few will keep your secret spots "secret" when they go with their other buds!

I would not even think of doing that because when you found the guy in your new spot you would be even more pissed at yourself. All it would take is a few pictures, a little brag here and there, and when he sees your truck parked somewhere and starts looking and poking around he will soon be in there with his buddies.

[bighorns2bushytails]

that really sucks.  i think i might have some harsh words and maybe have to ask my 'buddy' to step outside so we can settle this.  thats absolutely a crock that he would do that.

ive always tried to be very respectfull of the places my friends have shown me and ive always tried to reciporicate to them with the places i have.  its just one of those deals were there is an unwritten code and definately was broke.  id be pissed.

anways sorry to hear again.  id tell your friend that he burned himself and then id continue to brag it upto him how great your other spots are.  then when he asks you to take him id tell him to EAD.

--bh2bt

[Gutpile]

that really sucks.  i think i might have some harsh words and maybe have to ask my 'buddy' to step outside so we can settle this.  thats absolutely a crock that he would do that.

ive always tried to be very respectfull of the places my friends have shown me and ive always tried to reciporicate to them with the places i have.  its just one of those deals were there is an unwritten code and definately was broke.  id be pissed.

anways sorry to hear again.  id tell your friend that he burned himself and then id continue to brag it upto him how great your other spots are.  then when he asks you to take him id tell him to EAD.

--bh2bt

Aint that the truth. Sort of like Bill?

[blackhorn]

Letting your friends hunt with you in your secret spot is what friends do.  Friends do not turn around and give up your secret, especially after being asked to keep it that way.  Doesn't sound like a friend to me.

[teal101]

My buddy takes me to plenty of his land to hunt pheasant, quail, and waterfowl.  Not once have I ever hunted those spots without him.  My dad and I have a few spots we hunt together and only together unless I go alone and thats how those spots stay as well.  I swap hunts on my spots with my buddy and he swaps hunts with his spots.  It works out as we can trust each other.  There are maybe 6 people who I can take hunting and know they wont burn my spots.  Sad, but its how it is.

[lokidog]

Heck I'll wear the blindfold and sleep on the way there if we can shoot some birds. You can even search & pat me down like the TSA to insure I don't have my GPS. When do we leave? 

 

I had a guy I would take duck hunting on public land that you needed a boat, no problem as he didn't have a boat, but he always wanted me to take him turkey hunting...  no way as I knew him and his three kids would be there the rest of my life.

[georgemurray30]

Hard lesson learned as I have learned in the past.  I learned my lesson when I was 15 and took some of my friends to my Uncle's hunting area he showed me.  I have never taken any of my co-workers to my secret spots and I am very very picky about my hunting partners.  Sorry you had to go thru this lesson the hard way.

[PaulM]

I learned the "code" from an older respected hunter. Normally you trade hunts. The less experienced person should give up his hunt spot information to the other experienced guy. Then based on what the sharing guys learns he can share a good spot or a not so good spot for the trade hunts. The inexperienced guy should pay his dues by reading, door knocking, and exploring. If everyone would follow this code that I learned, the sport would benefit for all.

My friend shared his spot with me and I will not hunt this without him even though he said it was ok. I would never leak the spot info to other guys( they have asked). Recently I asked a couple guys to keep my good spot quiet and they came back and assured me they were asked about the spot and did not disclose it. I will take them to more spots now. They took me to their spot last year and I have kept thier spot just between us as well. 

[FALFire]

I learned a long time ago to take people only to public hunting ground areas that I talk up as "the best damn hunting you will ever find anywhere" Been burned once, won't happen again.

[BlackRidge]

Serious shame, goes to show why everyones weary of taking anyone anywhere near their honey-hole/decent areas

I'd knock the SOB co-worker out, so long as he wasn't someone who signed your paychecks.

[Blacklab]

Lots of people are in the same boat including me and with the same answer. Never again!!! well never is a long time guess it will be based on cicumstances.

[Grizzly95]

When someone tales me to a precious spot, I make it a rule to not go back unless I am with them or they flat tell me to check the spot on my own. I did break the rule this year and took my wife with me, but I think I can trust her ( I know where she lives  ) I personally have no secret spots of my own, Tman and I found a good place we saw some bear, but I have also been told that a hot spot for bear may not be hot the next day. Did I mention that I hate bears now!